[opensource-dev] SNOW-375 Binary Package Available

JB Hancroft jbhancroft at gmail.com
Tue Apr 6 05:46:16 PDT 2010

Thanks, Merov.

Using Dzonatas' SNOW-375 will be a great way to extend the viewer

Progress on SNOW-495 is good news - thank you!  Is that against the 1.4
codebase, or Snow V2?

- JB

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut <
merov at lindenlab.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com>wrote:
>> While that may be his intention, you can't make a new Snowglobe by placing
>> a patch in Jira, applying the patch to Snowglobe sources, and then
>> distributing the resulting viewer as if it were a new version of Snowglobe,
>> exempt from being a TPV.
>> If that were possible then everyone would do likewise with their own
>> patches in order not to be caught by the TPV policy.
>> So until SNOW-375 is committed into Snowglobe, Dzon is releasing a new
>> viewer that is not Snowglobe, and it's clearly a TPV so it needs a name,
>> which is why I asked what that name was.
>> I expect that Linden Lab would not take kindly to such TPV clients derived
>> from Snowglobe being called "Snowglobe-XXX" as a way of bypassing the TPV
>> policy.  Perhaps Merov could comment.
> I'll try to answer that case to the best of my understanding:
> - Commit of SNOW-375 in Snowglobe: This is a big patch and, since we don't
> have a CLA for Dzonatas on file, it can't be integrated as long as that's
> not cleared. Note that, to the best of my knowledge, such CLA are asked for
> contributions to most FLOSS projects. In the meantime, anyone can certainly
> apply Dzon's patch and build a viewer. As long as you do it for yourself,
> there's no problem with this.
> - Distributing Binaries: That indeed creates a TPV and TPV Policy will
> apply if the viewer plans to connect to the SL grid and be listed in the
> viewer directory.
> - Snowglobe Trademark: This is still an on going issue. In
> https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-153, Robla added the following
> comment:
> """
> We still plan to protect this logo under trademark law. We haven't
> announced a specific policy around this, but we're looking at the Fedora and
> Firefox logos for examples of the tradeoffs. We don't want to have is
> someone offering a trojan-horse laden viewer under the Snowglobe name
> bearing this logo, and we want to make sure we've got the legal right to
> stop that activity.
> """
> I don't have details on where we stand legally on the trademark application
> right now. In the meantime, using "Snowglobe-XXX" is unlikely to raise
> issues. Using something really different though is likely safer. Which
> brings us to...
> - Easy Packaging of TPV : This is actually the objective of the proposed
> "BINDIST --- easy way to produce legally distributable binary packages"
> https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-495 : I've been working on this in
> the background and plan to get something together shortly. I already
> identified all applicable patches so I'm not too far off producing a script
> doing this.
> Cheers,
> - Merov
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