[opensource-dev] To Pie or To List

[Ricky]

Delete only drops it into your Trash folder, so I find that it's not
that big of an issue to "Delete" an object.  It's only different from
"Take" in the destination folder!

Your point about removing the entries makes to me.

Ricky
Cron Stardust

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Opensource Obscure <open at autistici.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:48:52 -0700, Ricky <kf6kjg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Either way, I still see it as of little use with objects I own or am
>> the creator of!
>>
>> As regards the order for objects for which I am neither creator nor
>> owner I have no suggestion.  The current order might make sense.  Then
>> again, Do I ever have permission to /Delete/ someone else's objects?
>> Not so far as I know.  /Return/ would be the only available option,
>> and then only if I have edit privs on the owner's goods, am in a group
>> that allows me to return other's goods on the given parcel, or am the
>> landowner.
>>
>> This is starting to sound like it's time for a list:
>> * I am Owner
>> ** "Report Abuse" is deactivated (Doesn't make sense!)
>> ** "Block" is active (I may want to mute my own objects after all!)
>> ** "Return" is deactivated
>> ** "Delete" is active
>> * I am Creator but not Owner and I have no privileges granted
>> ** "Report Abuse" is deactivated (NOTE)
>> ** "Block" is active
>> ** "Return" is deactivated
>> ** "Delete" is deactivated
>> * I have been either granted Edit on the Owner's goods, am a member of
>> a group that the land is deeded to, the group I'm a part of has return
>> privs, or I am the land owner:
>> ** "Report Abuse" is active
>> ** "Block" is active
>> ** "Return" is active
>> ** "Delete" is deactivated (Unless for some reason land owners can
>> delete objects.... This I am unsure of.  Typically I've seen them
>> return items.)
>> * Otherwise (Not Creator, Not Owner, No Privs)
>> ** "Report Abuse" is active
>> ** "Block" is active
>> ** "Return" is deactivated
>> ** "Delete" is deactivated
>>
>> (NOTE) There may be a use case here for "Report Abuse" to be active on
>> an object I am the creator of, but not the owner: If the object is
>> modifiable, it's parts may have been used to make something offensive.
>>  I'd rather keep the option open in this case.
>>
>> Order may be largely a preference, but I think that "Delete" should be
>> topmost, if available as an option.  However this may create another
>> usability issue if the order of items in the menu follows a logical,
>> but seemingly random to beginners, order depending on context: A first
>> timer would have difficulty knowing beforehand which item will be in
>> what position in the menu.  So the order may need to be fixed, just
>> having unusable elements grayed out and deactivated in certain
>> contexts.
>
> If our aim is to make the menu lighter, cleaner and simpler to
> read, especially for a newbie, I'd prefer to completely hide
> those entries from the menu. Grayed and deactivated entries
> are still being read and their meaning is processed by the
> brain, so it's only a partial semplification.
>
> If the problem is only that one risks to return or abuse-report
> her stuff, I find it to be a very small and low-priority problem,
> as both those features have a confirmation window.
>
> Personally, I think Delete should be in a submenu and it should NOT
> be easily available, as we want to avoid it being triggered by error.
>
> Opensource Obscure
>