[opensource-dev] TPV & opensim & physics prediction

Dzonatas Sol dzonatas at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 13:12:54 PST 2010

I had this question but didn't see a response to it at all: "So, are 
they saying they don't want physics prediction? "

To me, a direct protocol, with a TLD, like "opens.im" , would help 
enable physics prediction where two or more simulator share the same 
dataset for a single region. There are exponential reasons why, so I 
only have avoided to describe all potential possibilities.

The issue of latency seems like a major concern for ALL users, not just 
those who invest in a grid server.

As I started this conversion, I brought up the UUCP domain, as it 
traditionally shows the foundation of p2p networks and how to share 
datasets with simple copy programs. Look at all the traffic on USENET 
that was still delivered to all nodes even on what we would consider now 
the slowest of computers and data connections. People used a similar 
VIEWER<->UUCP<->UUCP<->VIEWER to read news and distribute all the datasets.

It worked. It is still free and open.

All what we really want to do is add a 3D renderer and physics 
simulator. Everything else is already open source, patented, RFC'd, and etc.

Also, since "prims" are in-world, we also just want to add an "in-world 
DNS" that is not controlled by a "out-of-world IANA" -- I don't think 
this was acknowledged. Some can simply think of an LSL script in-world 
that acted as the DNS program, if that helps clarify.

Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:40:27PM -0800, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>> If there is no need for a grid server, then there would be no need
>> for a TOS that would try to control a TPV.
> ...and OpenSim has no such TOS.
>> If we modify LL's official viewer and add client-side simulation to
>> help dispel latency, with physics prediction, then their TOS says
>> "no," you have to register your special viewer to connect.
> ...to *Second Life*.  Not to connect in general.
> You're confusing Second Life, which is a single proprietary service run
> by a single company, with OpenSim, which is a software platform that can
> be deployed by anybody.
>> Melanie stated that opensim is grid server only (like a TOS), which
>> in essence, is logical equivalent to say, "you can't modify opensim
>> in order to add a viewer and connect to our grid server"
> Wrong.

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