[opensource-dev] oh give me a break

[Marine Kelley]

Don't forget to reply to all, everyone is getting only part of the
conversation when you reply to me only.

We're not talking about the same thing at all anyway. We were talking about
content theft issues, which has nothing to do with the viewer. It has
nothing to do with this mailing list even. They concern scripts, textures,
builds, shapes, sounds, all the assets that are built by individuals
in-world and that are copyright protected. You cannot hope for a grid where
all these assets would be free for all without asking to be able to steal
this content.


On 14 March 2010 23:39, New Hax <newhaxx at gmail.com> wrote:

> agree to disagree yea but then your days are numbered in SL. If the
> project forks then there will be a VW without all these restrictions
> and lindens threatening people for asking them to keep their promises?
>
> On 3/14/10, New Hax <newhaxx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I want a grid where people can have the freedom to develop what they
> > want and do what they want, without being told whats allowed, and
> > without being watched because you might move the wrong bits from one
> > place to another. and without lindens threatening if we dont "play
> > nice" with draconinan DRM. That was what i hoped the spirit of Open
> > source SL would be. but i guess im wrong.
> >
> >
> > On 3/14/10, Glen Canaday <gcanaday at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Then what are you doing here?
> >>
> >> On 03/14/2010 06:32 PM, New Hax wrote:
> >>> I know better than to try to get rich off of selling ones and zeroes.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/14/10, Glen Canaday<gcanaday at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Then what are you doing in SL? Not making a living, I can assure you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nor are you putting food on the table RL except perhaps by manual
> >>>> labor,
> >>>> which cannot be copied. Ex: Ditches need to be dug. The ditch-digger
> >>>> can
> >>>> be changed out, but that doesn't change the fact that even if you get
> a
> >>>> new digger, you still have a ditch when you're done.
> >>>>
> >>>> OSS/Free Software and Proprietary software are the diggers; they're
> not
> >>>> the ditch itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/14/2010 06:18 PM, New Hax wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> then what are you doing on an opensource list if you want your
> content
> >>>>> wrapped in DRM.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sl will die if its not open. and you can't compare rl doors to the
> >>>>> internet. if you dont lock your rl door I can come in and take
> >>>>> something of yours that isnt replaceable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but on the internet as a content maker you can make INFINITE products
> >>>>> so you arent losing anything if i copy it and make no money off of
> it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/14/10, Marine Kelley<marinekelley at gmail.com>   wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> well I am a content creator, content theft is a problem to me, it is
> >>>>>> tied
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> IP rights which are a legal issue. And I am not one of those who say
> >>>>>> "content theft is inevitable, let's not do anything about it". Doors
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> lock picked, that's not a reason for me to leave my door wide open.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 14 March 2010 23:04, New Hax<newhaxx at gmail.com>   wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/14/10, Marine Kelley<marinekelley at gmail.com>   wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Err... Content theft has always been a problem, will always be a
> >>>>>>>> problem,
> >>>>>>>> and LL better be on the same page with developers, content makers
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> customers here.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> content theft isn't a problem, never has been a problem, and is the
> >>>>>>> nature of the internet and digital things.  if content makers are
> >>>>>>> worried about content "theft" then they shouldn't be on SL. because
> >>>>>>> its inevitable and cant be stopped.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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