[opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.
Tateru Nino
tateru.nino at gmail.com
Thu Mar 18 10:30:33 PDT 2010
Huh. Curious. I have a client launcher (for SL among other things)
called 'vwrap'.
On 19/03/2010 4:23 AM, Morgaine wrote:
> Carlo, you're missing something very important in your write-up.
>
> The issue that you haven't covered is that Snowglobe is intended for
> interoperation with other worlds as well, not just with SL. Our work
> in VWRAP
> <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ogpx/current/maillist.html> has
> the goal of allowing a single client to work with any virtual world
> that can speak the protocol, and this applies very directly to
> Snowglobe. Pixel has added new OGP functionality in this direction
> already as you know, and it is reasonable to expect that this code
> will be evolving further until Snowglobe speaks full VWRAP.
>
> What this means is that Snowglobe is not merely an SL viewer, but will
> allow any VWRAP compatible world to be visited --- Lindens themselves
> agree on this direction. You might like to read the article that
> three of us wrote recently for IEEE Internet Computing about the
> expected future of VWRAP, for which a Linden was co-author. The
> article is available at: VWRAP for Virtual Worlds Interoperability
> <http://internetmessagingtechnology.org/pubs/VWRAP-for-Virtual-Worlds-Interoperability-mic2010010073.pdf>.
>
> Needless to say, if virtual world travellers are to use Snowglobe in
> multiple VWs, then the viewer is going to have to do more than just
> handle the SL subset of functionality. In other words, features for
> working with other worlds will also be appropriate in Snowglobe. I
> confirmed that features for interoperability would be acceptable in
> Snowglobe /in principle/, back when Rob Linden was handling the
> Hippotropolis meetings. I assume that this is still the case, since
> Linden support of VWRAP remains as strong as ever.
>
> This doesn't mean that everything will go in of course, but it does
> mean that there will be features proposed which Linden Lab may not
> wish to merge back into their own SL viewer --- that would be
> perfectly normal. Snowglobe developers who travel in virtual worlds
> will undoubtedly want to have a strong say in this, and even Lindens
> are quite likely to want to cherry-pick among such additional features
> for possible inclusion in the vendor branch. After all, it's
> reasonable to assume that LL doesn't want its main client to be left
> behind once we have interoperability.
>
> So the situation is rather more flexible than you suggest. Snowglobe
> isn't only about working with SL, at least not until LL issues a
> restrictive policy which would make Snowglobe unpalatable for general
> VWRAP use. I see no sign of that.
>
> Just to be sure that we're all on the same page, perhaps Merov would
> like to reaffirm Rob's statement regarding features that support
> interoperability in Snowglobe? Since we don't actually have any
> particular features in mind at this time, it's more a general
> statement of principle and intent that matters at this stage.
>
>
> Morgaine.
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> ==============================
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com
> <mailto:carlo at alinoe.com>> wrote:
>
> Here is some food for thought:
>
> -- Question: Who determines what is added to the viewer and what not?
>
> I propose (to be decided by Lindens, not others) the following:
>
> There are two different categories of things that can be added
> to the viewer:
>
> Category 1: Bug fixes; intended behavior is not as expected.
> Category 2: Features; intended behavior is changed (added).
>
> Category 1
> ----------
>
> These are handled the same as category 2, but without the need
> to decide at the user-experience level if the patch is wanted.
> Thus, for *accepted* feature AND bug fix:
>
> A committer writes the patch.
> The patch is reviewed by other committers.
> No committer can stop a patch entirely, but they can request
> patches to be taken back to the drawing board based on:
>
> * CPU usage (FPS drop)
> * Memory usage
> * Coding style
> * Maintainability (how easy it is to make changes without
> breaking it)
> * Robustness (chance it breaks accidently by changes elsewhere)
>
> Committer are expected to work together and respect eachother,
> but especially the original committer needs to be prepared to
> spend another week or two to address each and every comment
> made by other committers (for which the jira is used).
>
> When all other committers involved, with a minimum of one other
> committer, are satisfied; the patch may be committed.
>
> Category 2
> ----------
>
> In the case of a new feature, the new feature should really
> first be discussed on this list, before being implemented.
>
> What is being discussed are the effects on the users, not
> the technical effects like CPU usage etc. Non-committers
> can (politely) provide insight and feedback, but do not
> have any vote on whether or not a new feature will be added.
>
> In fact, nobody has a vote: in the end it's the call of
> Linden Lab, where we assume that if any Linden speaks his/her
> decision on the list that that is the internal decision of
> Linden Lab (and another Linden will not suddenly oppose).
>
> Each feature must be carried by a committer. That is, someone
> must step forward and offer to write it, test it and be
> prepared to through the hassle of Catergory 1 above. In most
> cases this will be a committer whose own idea the feauture
> is, that is the advantage of putting time into actually
> writing (good) patches. It is not a bad thing that committers
> have this priveledge. Of course, it is also possible that
> a committer decides to backup an idea of someone else.
> [There is no reason he cannot be paid for that, but I expect
> that in general this will not be the case].
>
> Linden Lab will take the following into account when making
> their decision about a new feature:
>
> * This is about Snowglobe ONLY; whether or not it's also
> added to the official viewer is a separate issue.
> * They will NOT take maintainability into account, that
> is the responsibility of the open source community.
> * If the new feature has no last impact on the user
> base, which can always be achieved by making it optional
> and/or not the default, they will let themselves strongly
> be influenced by the consensus of the list discussion.
> * The opinion of committers is taking more into account
> than the opinion of non-committers, because it's the
> committers who have to maintain the code.
> * The decision is made in a timely manner (ie, within
> two weeks after the discussion on this list dies out).
> If no decision is communicated within a reasonable
> time, they right to a final decision forfeits and the
> feature may be added (all with gentlemen agreement of
> course).
>
> For example, the Life Cycle of a new feature might be
> the following:
>
> * User thinks of new feature and adds it to the jira.
> * Several people find it and vote for it.
> * Feature comes to the attention of someone on this
> list and brings it under the attention of a committer.
> * Committer commits himself (haha) and post to the list
> with implementation detail ideas.
> * Everyone has their say in a civil and polite way.
> * The design (on "paper") goes through a few cycles
> until the committer that committed himself doesn't
> want to make more changes.
> * Linden Lab gives the red or green light.
> * In case of a green light, the committer writes a
> patch and tests it. Then attaches it to the jira.
> * At least one other committer tests it and makes
> comments about implementation details.
> * Original committer rewrites the patch and/or
> fixes bugs, until all other committers that want
> to spend time on reviewing are satidfied.
> * The patch is committed.
>
> --
> Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com <mailto:carlo at alinoe.com>>
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