[opensource-dev] Request for feedback - Preferences Cleanup

Yoz Grahame yoz at lindenlab.com
Mon Nov 8 15:18:31 PST 2010


... or Esbee's original suggestion, "Block", which is easily the most common
term for this across social software UIs. I just checked as many IM apps as
I could find: Skype, AIM, iChat, ICQ, MSN, Adium and Twitter all use
"Block", Y!M seems to alternate between "Block" and "Ignore".

On 8 November 2010 12:02, Andromeda Quonset <andromedaquonset at gmail.com>wrote:

>  I hadn't thought of "mute"  that way.  Perhaps "ignore" would be better.
> Or NULL.
>
>
> At 11:22 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote:
>
> That mute button sometimes does the opposite of what "mute" means in SL.
> On the telephones in my house and on my Android, mute turns off the
> *microphone*, not the incoming sound.  (Ditto for some other apps I've seen,
> such as GoToMeeting.  "Hold" is the closest analogue, which turns off both
> directions.)  I'm guessing this is probably the source of some of the
> confusion.
>
> Celi
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Andromeda Quonset <andromedaquonset at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  FWIW,
>
> I would also like to see the return to "Mute" instead of "Block".  With all
> due respect to your user testing, the telephone on my desk has a "Mute"
> button, not a "Block" button, and I consider it a very heavily used
> communications tool.  Perhaps there should be an option in preferences for
> setting the label for this function to either "Mute" or "Block",  as that
> would keep all of your users happy.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> At 09:10 AM 11/5/2010, Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm working on some updates to the pdf
> right now and will send that out for further review later today!
>
> I can't promise all the suggested additions will go into the prefs, but
> I'll definitely look at each one as I'm making updates.
>
> A few responses to those who's provided feedback so far:
>
> @Marine - 1) The text chat logs have been fixed in 2.3 beta. 2) We changed
> the label from "Mute" to "Block" early on in V2 because our user testing
> indicated new users were confused about what "Mute" means and understood
> "Block" because it's used commonly in other communication tools.
>
> @GeneJ - That for the reminder on that typo. It was pointed out in my OH
> the other week and I needed a good kick to remember to fix it! :)
>
> @Wolfpup - We're just talking about skinning for now. In the meantime, I'm
> just gathering color options in one place. But you're right - future
> skinning preferences will likely require a restart before changes would take
> effect.
>
> @Erin - I've taken note of your request for the numerical debug settings
> for sculpties. I'm not sure they make sense in this preference cleanup I'm
> doing now, but will be useful when I can focus my team on a sprint focused
> on content creation as some point in the near future. As far as local lights
> go, they've actually been added back in on the Mesh Project Viewer (SH-157<https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SH-157>)
> (which will eventually be added into the main Second Life Viewer). I'll take
> a look at the other tickets you referenced today.
>
> @Hitomi - Thanks for the additional settings. I'll review these this
> morning and see what makes sense to incorporate. That's a great list!
>
> More updates from me soon!
>
> --Esbee
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:50 PM, WolfPup Lowenhar <wolfpup67 at earthlink.net> wrote: I
> keep seeing people talking about user readable chat logs and from what I’m
> seeing in the current dev builds the logs are already back to plain text.
> I’m currently working on a feature that is dealing with chat and
> group/personal IM logs.
>
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> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Request for feedback - Preferences Cleanup
>
> Thanks for the Preferences mock-up (must say that I rather like the anime
> look of them :)) - some really sensible stuff there.
> Suggestions (all currently in Debug Settings): Chat - adjustable life and
> fade times for Startup, IM and Group popups - I find they are too short for
> me to spot sometimes Chat - Add in spinners to alter the number of times
> that IM tabs flash and the rate at which they flash at Advanced - Move 'UI
> Size' slider to Graphics as KL and myself have done - it fits more naturally
> there Graphics->Hardware - allow forcing on of Antialiasing (as the Viewer
> GPU presets often gets this wrong) or better still fix the presets :) Move
> & View - put in spinners for amount of head movement Move & View -
> Checkbox to allow double-click point-move in-world as an alternative to
> double-click teleport (which is welcome) Move & View - Checkbox for
> 'Number keys move avatar' Privacy - Check-box to select option to also
> create user-readable chat logs (as others have suggested) <- this is what
> I’m referring to. Advanced - Checkbox for 'Show Grid Selection at login' Advanced
> - Checkbox for 'Disable Camera Constraints' Advanced - Checkbox for 'Limit
> the distance I can select objects at' and sliders/spinners for selection
> distance and amount you can drag in one step Advanced - Checkbox for 'Show
> UI in snapshots'
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