[opensource-dev] s3-proxy.lindenlab.com points to a private IP address?

WolfPup Lowenhar wolfpup67 at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 7 04:45:16 PDT 2011


Ok I see two things here Glimmering Sands:

1.      You are using an old repository the current one is actually viewer
development as autobuild has been merged in.

2.      FMOD and KDU are actually somewhere in http://s3-proxy.lindenlab.com
of which we as Open Source Developers have NO access to and are NOT allowed
to have access to.

 

Ima Mecanique,

The FMOD and KDU libs are not distributed externally if you look at a
current copy of the autobuild.xml you will find that the address is a
private one for them and a few others LL cannot freely distribute. Now LL
has 'provided' a way for those that have FMOD already to 're-pacakage' this
one for use in the autobuild. LL dose not actually modify any of the FMOD
files but actually creates a 'wraper' in the form of llaudio to interface
with fmod.dll so that those that are on Windows will have working sound.

 

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> Linden Lab should not be distributing either of these libraries, as
> they do not have a license that permits them to do so(from what I have
> heard from them in other dialogs). So this violates and possibly voids
> their license for Kakadu, as well as all of their careful planning to
> keep it out of every developers hands except for their own.
>
> I hope that they will take these down, and it is not an error that you
> should NOT be able to download them. The error here is that they are
> trying to be downloaded at all.

This is something of a grey area.
For KDU, this is not distributing per se, as it is only the headers and
lib file to link against, not the final library being made available.
I'm not privy to the license details so have no idea if this would be a
breach of terms..

For FMOD, things are clearer.

"The contents of the FMOD distribution archive may not be redistributed,
reproduced, modified, transmitted, broadcast, published or adapted in any
way, shape or form, without the prior written consent of the owner,
Firelight Technologies, be it by tangible or non tangible media.

The fmod.dll file may be redistributed without the authors prior permission,
and must remain unmodified."

LL have both modified the archive (by creating a new one) and are
redistributing that modified version, so I hope they have obtained
written permission from Firelight Technologies  I'd hope that FT would
be happy to grant permission, as it relieves their servers of the
download bandwidth required.


> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 23:34, Glimmering Sands
> <glimmering.sands at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, I have discovered, through the wonders of Mr. Google, that there
> > is an older copy autobuild.xml out there at:
> >
> >
https://bitbucket.org/merov_linden/viewer-autobuild2010/src/44f214103cff/aut
obuild.xml
> >
> > and I was able to simply use the
> >
> > http://s3.amazonaws.com/viewer-source-downloads/install_pkgs/...
> >
> > lines for both fmod and kdu (would it be considered a bug that Linden
> > Labs is distributing an autobuild.xml that uses internal only paths
> > rather than using the external paths (that I guessed the used to
> > have?)
> >
> > One can also wonder why you would let internal DNS records be allowed
> > to external sites as well...
> >
> > Sometime later I will discover if this solves my grey goo box problem or
not :-)
> >
> > Hugs,
> >
> > Glimmering


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