[opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents?

malachi at tamzap.com malachi at tamzap.com
Tue Aug 16 11:23:05 PDT 2011


I thought it was a phishing attempt as well. But the account has been 
removed from second life. POOF. so unless some phisher has the ability 
to terminate accounts this is as real as it gets.


On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:21:48 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote:
> Careful, it could be a phishing attempt. Do NOT click on any of the
> links inside this email (unless you're certain it comes from Linden
> Lab, but then again emails can be spoofed).
>
> On 16/08/2011, malachi at tamzap.com <malachi at tamzap.com> wrote:
>> exactly which is why this message is so disturbing. accounts have 
>> been
>> terminated from second life for using a viewer not listed in the
>> directory.
>>
>>
>> "This email is notification that Linden Lab has terminated
>> your access to the Second Life virtual world due to severe
>> or repeated violations of the Second Life Terms of Service
>> or Community Standards. Your (account name 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx') and
>> alternate Second Life accounts have been
>> made permanently inaccessible."
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:33:39 -0400, Erin Mallory wrote:
>>> Last I checked there is no requirement to use an approved tvp. even
>>> on the tvp listing page. Looking at the policy and the directory
>>> pages, no where does it say that the viewer must be listed in the
>>> tvp...
>>> http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php
>>> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
>>>
>>> "You may connect to Second Life using software released by a
>>> third-party developer. Linden Lab provides a Policy on Third-Party
>>> Viewers [1] to promote a positive and predictable experience for 
>>> all
>>> Second Life Residents."
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:23:21 -0700
>>>> From: malachi at tamzap.com
>>>> To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>>>> Subject: [opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents?
>>>>
>>>> Violation: Third Party Viewer Usage
>>>> You are connecting to the grid with a viewer that is not in the
>>> third
>>>> party viewer directory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However...
>>>>
>>>> A viewer does not need to be on the Third Party Viewer Directory 
>>>> in
>>>> order for development or usage of it to be compliant with the 
>>>> Third
>>>
>>>> Party Viewer Policy (see Policy on Third-Party Viewers | Second
>>> Life)
>>>> and the Terms of Service. While I am sure you are well aware of
>>> this, it
>>>> can also be deduced through common sense that the open source
>>> program
>>>> (Snowstorm, Snowglobe, etc) would not be able to exist in an
>>> environment
>>>> where every personal compile had to be listed on the TPVD before 
>>>> it
>>>
>>>> could even begin to undergo any form of live quality assurance
>>>> processes.
>>>>
>>>> Long story short, unless there have been recent changes to the
>>> Terms of
>>>> Service that I am unaware of, or if there are relevant sections
>>> that I
>>>> have missed that indicate that a viewer that complies with the
>>> Third
>>>> Party Viewer Policy still must be in the Directory to be
>>> legitimately
>>>> used, I would request that you provide me with them.
>>>>
>>>> What this means is every single BETA tester for every client on 
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> TPVD is at risk of losing their accounts because that compiled
>>> version
>>>> of that client is not listed on the TPVD. Each and every Developer
>>> who
>>>> has worked so hard to help Linden Lab build their Client into what
>>> it is
>>>> is at risk of losing their accounts because each time they
>>> recompile the
>>>> source it isn't listed in the TPVD and is now considered a
>>> Violation of
>>>> some hidden TOS clause.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am posting this to this forum because I wanted to get feed back
>>> from
>>>> the community. As I myself and a developer who has contributed
>>> patches
>>>> to various TPVD Clients and am now finding myself cautious to even
>>> use
>>>> these clients source codes to help them. I would like 
>>>> clarification
>>> from
>>>> Linden Lab as well as other Developers on this new banning policy
>>> that
>>>> is requiring every compiled client that connects to second life to
>>> be
>>>> listed in the TPVD.
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