[opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

Latif Khalifa latifer at streamgrid.net
Tue Jan 18 13:55:39 PST 2011


For the record:

+1 for making it optional, with a debug setting default to off.

The viewer has such wonderful instrumentation and debug facilities.
Removing them in the name of "simplifying" is a big mistake in my
opinion.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) <q at lindenlab.com> wrote:
> It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to put it on a HUD if you care.  We're pulling the feature and simplifying the viewer.
>
> On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Liny Odell wrote:
>
>> Make that +2 for a debug setting
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Trilo Byte <trilobyte550m at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +1 for making it a debug setting (to choose whether you see notifications).
>>>
>>> The server version info would still be available in Help -> About as well as
>>> World -> Place Profile -> Region/Estate
>>> On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Erin Mallory wrote:
>>>
>>> could even bury the option in the debug console... most people that would
>>> need to turn it on would not likely keep flipping it I would think...
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800
>>> From: oskar at lindenlab.com
>>> To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>>> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications
>>>
>>> It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it optional, more
>>> informative, and disabled by default.
>>>
>>> __Oskar
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Erin
>>> Mallory <angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> to rephrase, yes I like them, thought i'd rather see them on the chat
>>> history and have more detailed.  but i can live without them if the majority
>>> really want to see them gone altogether.  for me it helps me during certain
>>> testing and stuff to know when ive changed server versions but that's really
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com
>>> To: missannotoole at yahoo.com; q at lindenlab.com; opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:04:09 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications
>>>
>>> I would also like to see the toast moved.  it can be useful and would be
>>> more useful if it had the actual version.  but i would like to see it on the
>>> chat history instead.  in fact... it would be nice to have an option to have
>>> ALL remaining system notifications be optionally shown in chat history
>>> instead of as toasts.  for one thing it would log better i think, for
>>> another...  well toasts bother a rather significant portion of sl.   those
>>> with some forms of epilepsy, migraines, some forms of add... to name a
>>> few...
>>>
>>> Erin/aka Cummere
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0800
>>> From: missannotoole at yahoo.com
>>> To: q at lindenlab.com; opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>>> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications
>>>
>>> Doesn't it add some minor overhead to region crossings? I don't care about
>>> it. The message does not say what server version you just entered so it is
>>> mostly an annoyance. If I need version info I know where it is.
>>>
>>> What I would like to see is region rating and a single letter server version
>>> code on the map without having to mouse float.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Kent Quirk (Q Linden) <q at lindenlab.com>
>>>
>>> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet
>>> Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the
>>> simulator version changed when you changed to a new region.
>>>
>>> I think we should delete it entirely. Does anyone care to still get that
>>> notification, now that there are usually 3 different simulator versions live
>>> on the grid at any time? I don't mean "I can think of an obscure scenario
>>> when someone might care." I mean does anyone really need a notification
>>> about this, or can we just delete it?
>>>
>>>
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