[opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

Tateru Nino tateru at taterunino.net
Tue Jan 18 16:22:27 PST 2011


Then can we have some sort of method by which we can turn arbitrary 
viewer events into popups? Or would I be wasting my time with that?

On 19/01/2011 8:58 AM, Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle wrote:
> The data is available via LSL - llGetEnv() 
> <http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetEnv>. If you think about it, it 
> makes much more sense for this to be a HUD for Residents who are 
> interested in the information. For casual Second Life users, this 
> information creates additional notification pop-ups and create 
> confusion for people who don't know or care that the regions they 
> enter are running different server versions.
>
> This is not a feature belongs in the Viewer. If there's more data you 
> want out of llGetEnv(), I'd suggest filing an SVC feature request.
>
> --Esbee
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Erin Mallory 
> <angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com <mailto:angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     I can live with that. I got much more important features /design
>     issues to fight over.  :)
>
>
>     > From: q at lindenlab.com <mailto:q at lindenlab.com>
>     > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:37:34 -0500
>     > To: liny.odell at phoenixviewer.com
>     <mailto:liny.odell at phoenixviewer.com>
>     > CC: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>     <mailto:opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com>
>
>     > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version
>     notifications
>     >
>     > It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available
>     to put it on a HUD if you care. We're pulling the feature and
>     simplifying the viewer.
>     >
>     > On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Liny Odell wrote:
>     >
>     > > Make that +2 for a debug setting
>     > >
>     > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Trilo Byte
>     <trilobyte550m at gmail.com <mailto:trilobyte550m at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > >> +1 for making it a debug setting (to choose whether you see
>     notifications).
>     > >>
>     > >> The server version info would still be available in Help ->
>     About as well as
>     > >> World -> Place Profile -> Region/Estate
>     > >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Erin Mallory wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> could even bury the option in the debug console... most
>     people that would
>     > >> need to turn it on would not likely keep flipping it I would
>     think...
>     > >>
>     > >> ________________________________
>     > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800
>     > >> From: oskar at lindenlab.com <mailto:oskar at lindenlab.com>
>     > >> To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>     <mailto:opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com>
>     > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version
>     notifications
>     > >>
>     > >> It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it
>     optional, more
>     > >> informative, and disabled by default.
>     > >>
>     > >> __Oskar
>     > >>
>     > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Erin
>     > >> Mallory <angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> to rephrase, yes I like them, thought i'd rather see them on
>     the chat
>     > >> history and have more detailed. but i can live without them
>     if the majority
>     > >> really want to see them gone altogether. for me it helps me
>     during certain
>     > >> testing and stuff to know when ive changed server versions
>     but that's really
>     > >> about it.
>     > >>
>     > >> ________________________________
>     > >> From: angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:angel_of_crimson at hotmail.com>
>     > >> To: missannotoole at yahoo.com <mailto:missannotoole at yahoo.com>;
>     q at lindenlab.com <mailto:q at lindenlab.com>;
>     opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>     <mailto:opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com>
>     > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:04:09 -0500
>     > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version
>     notifications
>     > >>
>     > >> I would also like to see the toast moved. it can be useful
>     and would be
>     > >> more useful if it had the actual version. but i would like to
>     see it on the
>     > >> chat history instead. in fact... it would be nice to have an
>     option to have
>     > >> ALL remaining system notifications be optionally shown in
>     chat history
>     > >> instead of as toasts. for one thing it would log better i
>     think, for
>     > >> another... well toasts bother a rather significant portion of
>     sl. those
>     > >> with some forms of epilepsy, migraines, some forms of add...
>     to name a
>     > >> few...
>     > >>
>     > >> Erin/aka Cummere
>     > >>
>     > >> ________________________________
>     > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0800
>     > >> From: missannotoole at yahoo.com <mailto:missannotoole at yahoo.com>
>     > >> To: q at lindenlab.com <mailto:q at lindenlab.com>;
>     opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com
>     <mailto:opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com>
>     > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version
>     notifications
>     > >>
>     > >> Doesn't it add some minor overhead to region crossings? I
>     don't care about
>     > >> it. The message does not say what server version you just
>     entered so it is
>     > >> mostly an annoyance. If I need version info I know where it is.
>     > >>
>     > >> What I would like to see is region rating and a single letter
>     server version
>     > >> code on the map without having to mouse float.
>     > >>
>     > >> ________________________________
>     > >> From: Kent Quirk (Q Linden) <q at lindenlab.com
>     <mailto:q at lindenlab.com>>
>     > >>
>     > >> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests
>     that we have Yet
>     > >> Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells
>     you the
>     > >> simulator version changed when you changed to a new region.
>     > >>
>     > >> I think we should delete it entirely. Does anyone care to
>     still get that
>     > >> notification, now that there are usually 3 different
>     simulator versions live
>     > >> on the grid at any time? I don't mean "I can think of an
>     obscure scenario
>     > >> when someone might care." I mean does anyone really need a
>     notification
>     > >> about this, or can we just delete it?
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
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