From sldev at free.fr Sat Jun 1 09:25:10 2013 From: sldev at free.fr (Henri Beauchamp) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:25:10 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> I'm pissed off ! Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230 Henri. From fuerholz at gmx.net Sat Jun 1 09:40:16 2013 From: fuerholz at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_F=FCrholz?=) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com><1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Henri, I'm curious: why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old incident? MartinRJ -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- From: Henri Beauchamp Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:25 PM To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... I'm pissed off ! Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230 Henri. _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges From sldev at free.fr Sat Jun 1 09:46:47 2013 From: sldev at free.fr (Henri Beauchamp) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:46:47 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > Hi Henri, > I'm curious: > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old incident? It is 15 days old, not 4 years old... From desmoulins.uchi at googlemail.com Sat Jun 1 09:53:42 2013 From: desmoulins.uchi at googlemail.com (Niran) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:53:42 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: Hehe, Henri, i really appreciate how you literally punch and kick everyone (especially those who deserve it), ofcourse you have a reason. Continue it, it makes me all <3 and ? 2013/6/1 Henri Beauchamp > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > > > Hi Henri, > > I'm curious: > > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old > incident? > > It is 15 days old, not 4 years old... > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130601/8ff8c94d/attachment.htm From robertltux at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 09:54:00 2013 From: robertltux at gmail.com (Robert Martin) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:54:00 -0400 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: i see the confusion the date stamp for the message is all the way at the bottom left 2013-06-01 16:22:34 On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > > > Hi Henri, > > I'm curious: > > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old > incident? > > It is 15 days old, not 4 years old... > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > -- Robert L Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130601/b3ee18cf/attachment.htm From nickyperian at yahoo.com Sat Jun 1 09:55:51 2013 From: nickyperian at yahoo.com (Nicky Perian) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: <1370105751.70415.YahooMailNeo@web126102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A suggestion: Move your code into a git or hg repository where credit is with each commit. Of course someone intent on taking without credit can diff the commit and apply without crediting the source. >________________________________ > From: Henri Beauchamp >To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com >Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 11:25 AM >Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... > > >I'm pissed off ! > >Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230 > >Henri. >_______________________________________________ >Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev >Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130601/fc594c50/attachment.htm From martin.fuerholz at fuerholz.org Sat Jun 1 09:57:31 2013 From: martin.fuerholz at fuerholz.org (=?utf-8?Q?Martin_F=C3=BCrholz?=) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:57:31 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com><1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: Ah! I misread the ?joined? date on that forum page as the ?posted? date, this happens all the time :D I?m sorry, last time that I?ve heard anything about Kirstenlee?s viewer was a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I can tell (and I?m pretty sure about that). See http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee?s viewer ?S20? was built in 2010). MartinRJ -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- From: Henri Beauchamp Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:46 PM To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > Hi Henri, > I'm curious: > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old > incident? It is 15 days old, not 4 years old... _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges From desmoulins.uchi at googlemail.com Sat Jun 1 10:00:21 2013 From: desmoulins.uchi at googlemail.com (Niran) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:00:21 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: Thing is, Henri said Kirsten did just take his code to update his dead Viewer to make it compatible with stuff again without mentioning him in any way, going to far that (nearly) all traces of Henri are removed. 2013/6/1 Martin F?rholz > Ah! I misread the ?joined? date on that forum page as the ?posted? date, > this happens all the time :D > I?m sorry, last time that I?ve heard anything about Kirstenlee?s viewer was > a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I > can tell (and I?m pretty sure about that). See > http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee?s viewer ?S20? was > built in 2010). > MartinRJ > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > From: Henri Beauchamp > Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:46 PM > To: opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > > > Hi Henri, > > I'm curious: > > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old > > incident? > > It is 15 days old, not 4 years old... > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130601/d4645a41/attachment-0001.htm From sldev at free.fr Sat Jun 1 10:15:52 2013 From: sldev at free.fr (Henri Beauchamp) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:15:52 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: <20130601191552.b0417e53.sldev@free.fr> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:57:31 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > Ah! I misread the ?joined? date on that forum page as the ?posted? date, > this happens all the time :D > I?m sorry, last time that I?ve heard anything about Kirstenlee?s viewer was > a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I > can tell (and I?m pretty sure about that). See > http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee?s viewer ?S20? was > built in 2010). S20 is a v2 viewer, so it's obviously a different branch. It is quite possible that Kirsten used the Cool VL Viewer sources and the incremental patches I publish with every release to follow my progresses on it, but it's obviously the very same viewer with just a couple of patches added (a 600Kb diff is NOTHING, especially when you see what the changes are about in this diff... a i++ instead of a ++i is not significant a change !). In fact, I don't care if Kirsten forks my viewer, what I care about is that he obviously pretends being the person behind the 3000+ hours of coding *I* spent on this code over the 6+ years of continuous development ! If anyone got more to say about this matter, please let's move it to the Cool VL Viewer forum: I don't want to polute this list more than I already did (but I thought it was important to bring up such an issue). Henri. From marinekelley at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 14:25:30 2013 From: marinekelley at gmail.com (Marine Kelley) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 23:25:30 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest... In-Reply-To: <20130601191552.b0417e53.sldev@free.fr> References: <1369277954.2176.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <519F84B9.8070706@lindenlab.com> <1369409719.75949.YahooMailNeo@web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130601182510.e7ac2746.sldev@free.fr> <20130601184647.cad24ef3.sldev@free.fr> <20130601191552.b0417e53.sldev@free.fr> Message-ID: Henri has been putting a considerable number of hours over several years into fixing bugs and making improvements, including into other people's viewers ! If what he says is true (and I have no doubt that it is since it is easy to verify), this kind of thing is totally unacceptable. TPV developers ought to behave exemplarily because users put their data into their hands and trust them not to mess around with it. When one dev misbehaves, it drops a shade of doubt on every other dev in the community. I sincerely hope this was a misstep. On 01/06/2013, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:57:31 +0200, Martin F?rholz wrote: > >> Ah! I misread the ?joined? date on that forum page as the ?posted? date, >> this happens all the time :D >> I?m sorry, last time that I?ve heard anything about Kirstenlee?s viewer >> was >> a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I >> can tell (and I?m pretty sure about that). See >> http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee?s viewer ?S20? was >> >> built in 2010). > > S20 is a v2 viewer, so it's obviously a different branch. > It is quite possible that Kirsten used the Cool VL Viewer sources and the > incremental patches I publish with every release to follow my progresses on > it, but it's obviously the very same viewer with just a couple of patches > added (a 600Kb diff is NOTHING, especially when you see what the changes > are about in this diff... a i++ instead of a ++i is not significant a > change !). > > In fact, I don't care if Kirsten forks my viewer, what I care about is that > he obviously pretends being the person behind the 3000+ hours of coding *I* > spent on this code over the 6+ years of continuous development ! > > If anyone got more to say about this matter, please let's move it to the > Cool VL Viewer forum: I don't want to polute this list more than I already > did (but I thought it was important to bring up such an issue). > > Henri. > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges From ardylay at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 21:28:01 2013 From: ardylay at gmail.com (Rodney Young) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 23:28:01 -0500 Subject: [opensource-dev] SL viewer DNS activity In-Reply-To: <5107FEBE.7070807@lindenlab.com> References: <5107FEBE.7070807@lindenlab.com> Message-ID: <51AC1B51.5000108@gmail.com> Some DNS server operators are configuring servers to block clients that make many identical requests as a method of dealing with DNS amplification attacks. 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URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130603/26ad726d/attachment.htm From cinder.roxley at phoenixviewer.com Mon Jun 3 08:11:55 2013 From: cinder.roxley at phoenixviewer.com (Cinder Biscuits) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:11:55 -0600 Subject: [opensource-dev] This made me think of you opensource-dev In-Reply-To: <4+paavltgrblbsadca2ehsve4yvgu7tgzoiyijyftv7p7ff5vuy4fyog6ilhth42u37uzuih2jx7glltbvzvkoslovslkuq7ztn5jc23plvqmah46usz2oyzdesr24od6ze4arfixve35fx7j7ercpdwnfmaavkfiod6jt7mtaplay4aaz5aqlb3qcdyddakq=+266520@critsend.com> References: <4+paavltgrblbsadca2ehsve4yvgu7tgzoiyijyftv7p7ff5vuy4fyog6ilhth42u37uzuih2jx7glltbvzvkoslovslkuq7ztn5jc23plvqmah46usz2oyzdesr24od6ze4arfixve35fx7j7ercpdwnfmaavkfiod6jt7mtaplay4aaz5aqlb3qcdyddakq=+266520@critsend.com> Message-ID: <360AE762-15AF-4E64-8DCD-B00670682CED@phoenixviewer.com> This just makes me think of sitearm blog spam. :P On 3 Jun 2013, at 9:10, Diana aybar wrote: > Hi opensource-dev, > Beyond the Rack has unbelievable sales right now on "Riney-01 Sandal > in White". > The savings are so good that I had to share it with you ;) > > Instantly Sign-up & View this deal http:// > Diana From stickman at gmail.com Wed Jun 12 04:02:06 2013 From: stickman at gmail.com (Stickman) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:02:06 -0700 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation Message-ID: It was recently argued to me against the use of llTextBox because of a warning on the wiki regarding its behavior on non-supported clients. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlTextBox Not supported in official Linden Labs viewers prior to version 2.4, and some TPVs may not support it. Unsupported viewers will display a dialog box with a single option of "!!llTextBox!!". ARE there any TPVs (or official viewers) that don't support llTextBox? I thought it was universal by now. Thanks, Stickman From darien.caldwell at gmail.com Wed Jun 12 09:10:17 2013 From: darien.caldwell at gmail.com (Darien Caldwell) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:10:17 -0700 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, given Oz's recent revelation that there's over 1600 different version of the SL client logging in daily, sure, it's possible someone is still using a client that doesn't support llTextBox(). Does every major TPV that still updates their client have it? Yes. So I wouldn't let edge cases stop me from using it. I've used it in many products sold in world, and never received a single complaint of it not working. - Dari On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Stickman wrote: > It was recently argued to me against the use of llTextBox because of a > warning on the wiki regarding its behavior on non-supported clients. > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlTextBox > Not supported in official Linden Labs viewers prior to version 2.4, > and some TPVs may not support it. Unsupported viewers will display a > dialog box with a single option of "!!llTextBox!!". > > ARE there any TPVs (or official viewers) that don't support llTextBox? > I thought it was universal by now. > > Thanks, > > Stickman > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130612/51c7ee98/attachment.htm From stickman at gmail.com Wed Jun 12 10:44:48 2013 From: stickman at gmail.com (Stickman) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:44:48 -0700 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Darien Caldwell wrote: > Well, given Oz's recent revelation that there's over 1600 different version > of the SL client logging in daily, sure, it's possible someone is still > using a client that doesn't support llTextBox(). > > Does every major TPV that still updates their client have it? Yes. > > So I wouldn't let edge cases stop me from using it. I've used it in many > products sold in world, and never received a single complaint of it not > working. Thank you for the information, Darien. This is enough for me to make my design decisions. I will go with your recommendation. Stickman From holydoughnuts at gmail.com Wed Jun 12 11:07:10 2013 From: holydoughnuts at gmail.com (holydoughnuts) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:07:10 -0400 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B8B8CE.3080709@gmail.com> On 6/12/2013 7:02 AM, Stickman wrote: > ARE there any TPVs (or official viewers) that don't support llTextBox? > I thought it was universal by now. Officially, 1.23.5 is still on the active list, in the "not formally supported" category but not blocked. But, virtually any client that can display current content can handle llTextBox too. At this point it's reasonable to expect that new items won't be working on these clients. If the proliferation of mesh hasn't brought that point home, the imminent server side appearance changes should make it about as clear as it's going to get. From kadah.coba at gmail.com Thu Jun 20 13:31:53 2013 From: kadah.coba at gmail.com (Kadah) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:31:53 -0700 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51C366B9.5000204@gmail.com> On 6/12/2013 4:02 AM, Stickman wrote: > It was recently argued to me against the use of llTextBox because > of a warning on the wiki regarding its behavior on non-supported > clients. > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlTextBox Not supported in official > Linden Labs viewers prior to version 2.4, and some TPVs may not > support it. Unsupported viewers will display a dialog box with a > single option of "!!llTextBox!!". > > ARE there any TPVs (or official viewers) that don't support > llTextBox? I thought it was universal by now. > > Thanks, > > Stickman Get me a list of which viewers and versions that either do or don't support it and I can give you an estimate of adoption of it. I have a feeling its going to be around the same as Mesh, 96.3% From kadah.coba at gmail.com Thu Jun 20 13:44:27 2013 From: kadah.coba at gmail.com (Kadah) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:44:27 -0700 Subject: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51C369AB.9060602@gmail.com> On 6/12/2013 9:10 AM, Darien Caldwell wrote: > Well, given Oz's recent revelation that there's over 1600 > different version of the SL client logging in daily, sure, it's > possible someone is still using a client that doesn't support > llTextBox(). The 1600 channels weekly figure misleading since only 50-60 of them account for, I estimate, over 90% the sessions per week and the remaining mostly on a handful of different non-TPVD viewers and text clients. The bulk of those 1600 channels are ones that get a few logins a week. From laurent.bechir at madonie.org Sun Jun 23 04:33:32 2013 From: laurent.bechir at madonie.org (Laurent Bechir) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:33:32 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Bug report on white artifacts and materials viewer without assignee Message-ID: <36427AE8-8095-413C-85B5-84A90AAB0171@madonie.org> Hello, I'd like to know if someone is taking care of these bug reports : https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-216 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-171 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-197 I can't use materials viewer 3.6 new features because of that, and I see no assignee for the moment. That's why I'm asking :) Thank you From laurent.bechir at madonie.org Tue Jun 25 06:20:15 2013 From: laurent.bechir at madonie.org (Laurent Bechir) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:20:15 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life Message-ID: <4D90D81D-E305-45C9-A9E0-56FF0F14B656@madonie.org> Hello, I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can be used in Second Life ? https://www.leapmotion.com Thank you From robertltux at gmail.com Tue Jun 25 06:39:35 2013 From: robertltux at gmail.com (Robert Martin) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:39:35 -0400 Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life In-Reply-To: <4D90D81D-E305-45C9-A9E0-56FF0F14B656@madonie.org> References: <4D90D81D-E305-45C9-A9E0-56FF0F14B656@madonie.org> Message-ID: i would think that if it sends standard keystrokes it should work as well as any version of this tech. Im not sure if the hooks are still in place but there was at one time baked in support for a 3d controller in the client code. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Laurent Bechir wrote: > Hello, > > I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can > be used in Second Life ? > > https://www.leapmotion.com > > Thank you > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > -- Robert L Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130625/ce4a24b7/attachment.htm From Inara.Pey at gmx.com Tue Jun 25 07:51:52 2013 From: Inara.Pey at gmx.com (Inara Pey) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:51:52 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life Message-ID: <20130625145152.165420@gmx.com> See: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Reaching-into-Second-Life-with-Leap-Motion/ba-p/1861205 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurent Bechir Sent: 06/25/13 02:20 PM To: Opensource Development List Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life Hello, I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can be used in Second Life ? https://www.leapmotion.com Thank you _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130625/77adcb02/attachment.htm From gcanaday at gmail.com Tue Jun 25 17:08:43 2013 From: gcanaday at gmail.com (glen) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:08:43 -0500 Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life In-Reply-To: References: <4D90D81D-E305-45C9-A9E0-56FF0F14B656@madonie.org> Message-ID: <1372205323.1620.2.camel@jessica-laptop> I know of a MOCAP setup that used to sit in a closet at LL from the way-back-when days, is that the controller you're talking about? I was under the impression that it would have permitted live animations, but my memory is not as awesome as it never was so I could be completely full of it. --GC On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 09:39 -0400, Robert Martin wrote: > i would think that if it sends standard keystrokes it should work as > well as any version of this tech. Im not sure if the hooks are still > in place but there was at one time baked in support for a 3d > controller in the client code. > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Laurent Bechir > wrote: > Hello, > > I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this > technology can be used in Second Life ? > > https://www.leapmotion.com > > Thank you > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated > posting privileges > > > > -- > Robert L Martin > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges From laurent.bechir at madonie.org Tue Jun 25 20:59:51 2013 From: laurent.bechir at madonie.org (Laurent Bechir) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 05:59:51 +0200 Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life In-Reply-To: <20130625145152.165420@gmx.com> References: <20130625145152.165420@gmx.com> Message-ID: <9C84DF5C-9FAC-4921-AFE2-A6A8DF398CC7@madonie.org> Thank you for the URL. It seems interesting, but quite difficult to use :). From what I see, keyboard, mouse and trackpad seem to still be easier to use. Le 25 juin 2013 ? 16:51, "Inara Pey" a ?crit : > See: > > http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Reaching-into-Second-Life-with-Leap-Motion/ba-p/1861205 > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laurent Bechir >> Sent: 06/25/13 02:20 PM >> To: Opensource Development List >> Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can be used in Second Life ? >> >> https://www.leapmotion.com >> >> Thank you >> _______________________________________________ >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev >> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130626/726f1296/attachment.htm From c at yotes.com Sat Jun 29 13:38:12 2013 From: c at yotes.com (Adam Moss) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:38:12 +0100 Subject: [opensource-dev] 'justabouteverything' (STORM-1921, STORM-1928, STORM-1927) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto now with: https://bitbucket.org/tofu_linden/just-about-everything2 Updated to the latest viewer-release (w/materials). Cheers, --Adam 'Tofu Buzzard' On 10 March 2013 16:30, Adam Moss wrote: > I've put ALL of my finished rendering fixes and speedups on this one > branch: > https://bitbucket.org/tofu_linden/justabouteverything > > It's all been reviewed. I've put it in one place based on third-hand > information that merging the fixes together with viewer-development was > hard (it was truly trivial - hmm!) > > It's based on the latest viewer-development. > > I'd appreciate if it could be taken upstream or whatever. > > Cheers, > --Adam > 'Tofu Buzzard' > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20130629/19ab1cf6/attachment.htm