[opensource-dev] Avatar Hover Height feature

[Lance Corrimal]

The simple fact of the matter is that Henri believes that some parts of
the LL contribution agreement violate french law, but neither him nor LL
actually think of asking a lawyer to have a look if that is true or not.

Am 03.02.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Harold Brown:
> The simple fact of the matter is.  If you do not sign a code
> contribution agreement LL can NOT use your code.  
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Henri Beauchamp <sldev at free.fr
> <mailto:sldev at free.fr>> wrote:
>
>     On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:20 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>
>     > On 2015-01-31 07:53 , Henri Beauchamp wrote:
>     > > Greetings,
>     > >
>     > > I know this should be posted in the JIRA, but apparently the
>     comments in
>     > > the existing issue (SUN-38) are not read or not taken into
>     account by
>     > > Lindens.
>     > >
>     > > Please, to any and all Linden(s) involved in AHH, do read this
>     post for
>     > > your own enlightement (and hopefully, a better and definitive
>     solution
>     > > for the SL community as a whole):
>     > > http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1494&p=6890#p6890
>     > >
>     > > Note that I'm beyond the point to care about whether this
>     message will
>     > > be taken into account or not (so it's perfectly useless to enter a
>     > > sterile argument on this list about it). It's more like a bottled
>     > > message I throw into the sea...
>     >
>     > I won't speculate on whether or not we would have decided to do it
>     > differently had your suggestion actually been made when we were
>     starting
>     > work on this months ago; the factors affecting avatar height and
>     avatar
>     > vertical offset are quite complicated and it may or may not have
>     been
>     > the right thing to do. I will say that your input would
>     certainly have
>     > been considered had you been a part of the conversation at the time
>     > rather than posting a note on our private forum well after the fact.
>
>     Are you ***kidding*** me ????
>
>     I have been attending quite a few Server group meetings with Nyx, and
>     you even were there once (for sure) or twice (can't swear on it), when
>     I spoke about the SUN-38 issue.
>     You will find several agendas with my entry about SUN-38, in the Wiki:
>     http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=henri+sun-38&fulltext=Search
>     Most of the corresponding transcripts are alas missing from the Wiki,
>     but I *did* explain my solution in at least two of those meetings
>     and I will point out one particular agenda, where I asked if SPEAKING
>     with a Linden about SUN-38 and the possible solutions would be at all
>     possible:
>     http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Archive/2013-04-29
>
>     It's not my fault if you keep shrugging off every remark or proposal
>     I make, or even refuse the dialog (in plain text, because I cannot
>     articulate well enough English neither understand English spoken
>     with the US American accent in real time).
>     I will not even bother quoting the various emails I sent to
>     *YOU*, Oz, and that you never replied (albeit about other subjects
>     than SUN-38), but if you want them, I could dig in my backups...
>
>     > Despite the fact that you refuse to contribute your code,
>
>     Again you are reverting the roles here !!!!
>
>     I never refused to contribute my code: it's GPL and always said
>     that anyone (and yes, that includes *you* Lindens) could reuse it.
>     Also, each time someone asked for permissionto make my code LGPL
>     to be compatible with their own viewer, I always said "go for it !".
>
>     What I refuse, however, is to sign a contribution agreement where
>     I would have to give private data to perfect strangers residing
>     in a foreign country that doesn't respect the privacy protection
>     Law of *my* country (or of any other country for that purpose).
>     You perfectly know this, for I explained it to you (and to Soft
>     Linden, your predecessor) countless times in emails, even going
>     down to give you pointers to paragraphs in the (English-
>     translated even !) French Law "Informatique et Liberté".
>
>     I am not the one refusing to contribute my code, YOU are the one(s)
>     refusing to use my contributions because of stupid and pointless
>     lawyer-induced bureaucracy. It is *YOUR* choice and *YOUR* refusal,
>     not mine !!!
>
>     > I'm happy to make sure that your input is considered if and when
>     > you provide it in a timely way;
>
>     I am the very initiator of the SUN-38 issue, and if you re-read the
>     comments I made in it, my solution is exposed here as well (see
>     the comment posted on 22/Jun/14 10:58 AM, in reply to the Firestorm
>     team's proposal, i.e. QUITE in the TIMELY manner !!!).
>
>     I ALWAYS gave pointers to major flaws and regressions, either in the
>     form of a JIRA issue, or directly via emails (to YOU !!!). So,
>     accusing me of not providing the info or not in a timely manner is
>     quite INSULTING and a pure LIE from your part.
>
>     > I hope that in the future you'll chose to engage more productively.
>
>     I hope that in the future, you will actually read the JIRAs I
>     initiate,
>     the emails I send to you, the messages I post on the various
>     boards and
>     blogs you DO frequent as well as I do (Nalate's blog, to cite just
>     one).
>     I also hope that you will make the minimum effort to communicate in a
>     way that a non-English speaking person such as myself can actually
>     manage (Open Source meetings used to happen in CHAT and not in voice,
>     when Soft Linden was still there... and I DID tell you in one of your
>     first meetings that people like me COULDN'T attend your meetings
>     because
>     of the language barrier: I can find the log, if you wish...).
>
>     Now, I would *much* more prefer a clever and fruitful collaboration
>     to this sterile childish behaviour (ignoring me, then putting the
>     fault on me for not participating. I think that in 8+ years of SLing,
>     I *never stopped* participating !).
>
>     A *pissed* off (BIG TIME !)...
>
>     Henri.
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