[sldev] [HELP] VS 2008?
Callum Lerwick
seg at haxxed.com
Tue Dec 4 12:36:40 PST 2007
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 11:15 -0800, Kelly Linden wrote:
> Internally the big blocker for anything past VS 2003 are the libs for
> our extremely out dated current version of Havok. We don't really
> want to require 2 different versions of VS to develop on windows
> (servers vs clients), especially with Havok4 so close. I've heard
> rumors that at least some of the Windlight team regularly use VS 2005
> already, since they rarely (if ever) need to work on the server code
> for their project.
Do we need a quick reference "Why LL should drop all proprietary deps"
wiki page or something? :)
Open source means you're never held back by ABI incompatibilities.
Example: Being stuck with VS2003 due to havok.
Open source means you're not held hostage by vendor bugs. Examples: The
Quicktime security hole. fmod streaming ogg does not work on Linux or
OSX.
Open source means you're not SOL when vendors EOL a product. Example:
fmod 3 is EOLed and is thus never going to get fixed.
Open source means you're portable. Example: fmod is not available for
x86-64 or SPARC or Solaris or etc etc... I can't find solid info on KDU.
Am I to understand LL has a source license for it? (And incidentally, if
so does than mean LL developers that have seen KDU source are now
"tainted" and might get in trouble if they work on OpenJPEG? Fun...)
And Gigs Taggart made a very interesting case at a recent open source
meeting:
Gigs Taggart: Rob: also we really need to commit to getting rid of
proprietary deps, I know that has cost me business
Gigs Taggart: Rob: people come to me, ask for custom viewer work, when
they find out they are going to need a proprietary license for any
realistic use, they back out
From http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Source_Meeting/2007-11-29
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