[sldev] Re: "But your IP wouldn't be safe"

Chance Unknown chance at kalacia.com
Tue Jul 10 09:08:51 PDT 2007


since your target is SL, the people most argumentitive about privacy
concerns are the bored lonely housewives that sit at home looking for cyber
affairs. of course they want their identities masked. they dont get that
kind of privay when looking for a hookup at myspace or facebook.

are there any demographics that places these particular consumers in the
primary seat driving development? it has been demonstrated over the past
number of years that the paying customers (private islands) dont tend to
have influence over development, so why should an even smaller cluster of
customers be the ones responsible for driving design goals?

On 7/10/07, dale at daleglass.net <dale at daleglass.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 03:08:44AM +0200, Nicholaz Beresford wrote:
> > Ummm, I'm probably missing the point of this discussion completely,
> > but what exactly do you think is this attacker doing with your
> > your IP address?
> DoS, for instance
>
> > I mean what is he doing different from that
> > which about 20+ people per hour aren't trying already through
> > IP scan.
> That on SL you can connect it to a name (even avatar name), and a random
> IP scan doesn't.
>
> Think IRC -- Doing something nasty to another person's computer is
> pretty common there, and people don't pick targets at random.
>
> If Bob is on IRC, and Mallory hates him for some reason, and the IRC
> server makes the IP addresses visible, then Mallory has all the required
> data to attack Bob specifically.
>
> Now, DoS is illegal of course, but it doesn't mean it won't happen, and
> it's a fuzzy concept as well. You can perform a DoS without making it
> really obvious it's an attack.
>
> For instance, there are plenty people with very low upload speeds. If you
> find this person runs a webserver or some other service that it's
> possible to download lots of data from, you don't even need to do
> anything particularly malicious.
>
> Just connect to the server, with maybe just 1-3 connections (to avoid
> looking obviously evil), and start downloading. On many connections
> that'll cause plenty lag.
>
> They can take the server down, but if you managed that, that's a DoS
> in itself.
>
>
> IMO, in SL this is even more likely. On IRC it's just name, on SL there
> are multiple well known groups targeted by various morons, who are
> identifiable by the way they look.
>
> And since there even are people trying to bring the grid down, despite
> LL's attempt at prosecution, I doubt legal threats are enough to
> dissuade everybody.
>
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