[sldev] JIRA: Blockers (crash after login)

Able Whitman able.whitman at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 00:41:36 PDT 2007


Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with how the crash reporter works, so this
may be a silly question: Is there anything we can do to improve the
usefulness of the crash reports that are submitted? Or is their unusefulness
simply a consequence of the crashes happening in graphics-card-specific
code?

On 6/20/07, Erik Anderson <odysseus654 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> While crash reports are great, they aren't the end-all of everything.
> We've already heard from LL that a majority of crash reports are effectively
> unusable, showing a crash report somewhere in the graphics core.  A
> combination of both approaches is required.  I have the crash reporter run
> automatically, but I doubt that half my reports do anything.
>
> On 6/19/07, Harold Brown <labrat.hb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For crash issues like this, people really should be using the crash
> > reporter tool as it can gather the information needed by LL's to isolate and
> > fix the problems.  A JIRA bug report on a random crash without a solid
> > reproduction is not something that will be able to be diagnosed or fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/19/07, Able Whitman <able.whitman at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > At least some of the crash-on-startup issues are related to certain
> > > ATI video chipsets. In some cases, disabling vertex shaders seems to fix the
> > > problem. For me, this issue only affects the WindLight firstlook viewer, and
> > > disabling vertex shaders didn't help.
> > >
> > > Of course, I tried the "update to the latest drivers" bit, but the
> > > latest ATI drivers caused my XPSP2 system to bluescreen about every hour or
> > > so, and even then, it didn't fix the WindLight viewer crash. Needless to
> > > say, I reverted to the previous version :)
> > >
> > > All of this is to say that I'd be cautious about lumping all the
> > > crash-on-startup bugs together without first gathering some data that
> > > indicates that they're similar in root cause, not just in repro.
> > >
> > > --Able
> > >
> > > On 6/19/07, Gary Wardell <gwardell at gwsystems.co.il > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > There is a common theme that I picked up.
> > > >
> > > > They seemed to either start or got worse with release 1.14, and got
> > > > progressively worse with each new release to date.
> > > >
> > > > I am able to reproduce some of the problems, the hangs, on my
> > > > workstation and I was going to try to work on them, but, alas, I'm
> > > > swamped with RL work now and not able to finish getting my build
> > > > environment to going.
> > > >
> > > > I agree that it could be video related.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: sldev-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
> > > > > [mailto:sldev-bounces at lists.secondlife.com]On Behalf Of Jason
> > > > Giglio
> > > > > Sent: Tue, June 19, 2007 5:26 PM
> > > > > To: Dzonatas
> > > > > Cc: sldev at lists.secondlife.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [sldev] JIRA: Blockers (crash after login)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dzonatas wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is a list of currently open and reopened jira issues marked
> > > > as
> > > > > > blockers.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have gone through these, resolved almost half of them, commented
> > > > on
> > > > > most of them, voted on some.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a big recurring theme though.
> > > > >
> > > > > "SL Crashes shortly after logging in" is a big problem still
> > > > > for a lot
> > > > > of people.  It looks like it may have multiple causes, but
> > > > > seems to be
> > > > > video related generally.
> > > > >
> > > > > These bugs could be merged into one bug, but it's not clear
> > > > > it's all the
> > > > > same problem there.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jason
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