[sldev] A patch to allow creation of megaprims from within theviewer

[Able Whitman]

Thanks everyone for all the feedback! This has encouraged me enough that
I've posted both my patch and Jacek's 1.20 RC5 patch with a new JIRA issue:

VWR-7192:Hack to allow creating arbitrarily-sized prims in the viewer
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7192

There are a few different issues already open that discuss various aspects
of megaprims, but I created a new issue to specifically discuss this hack /
feature, and to provide a central place for people to get the patches.

I currently don't have a downloadable version available, but since there
seems to be some interest, I'll see if I can put something together later
today. It won't be a simple drop-in EXE, since you need a new
floater_tools.xml file as well.

Of course I'm currently only building from the 1.19 source; if you want 1.20
you'll have to look elsewhere. :)

Cheers,
--Able

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Sylvio Deutsch <overtake at keynet.com.br>
wrote:

>  Hi Able
>
> From my side, even having been on the receiving end of mega prims
> griefing, I´m all for having them around, their usefulness is much greater
> than the problems they can cause.
>
> So my vote is for you to start the JIRA for it.
>
>
> And... there is any viewer compiled with your patch? I never tried to
> compile a viewer and it would take a LONG time for me to learn...
>
>
> {}Overtake
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Able Whitman <able.whitman at gmail.com>
> *To:* sldev at lists.secondlife.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:37 PM
> *Subject:* [sldev] A patch to allow creation of megaprims from within
> theviewer
>
> Howdy,
>
> This is the second small feature I've been working on lately. Apparently
> at some time in the recent past, an LL server update re-enabled the ability
> to create prims with dimensions larger than 10m on a side. There are already
> lots of new megaprims available, mostly for free (like here on SLExchange:
> http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=685589).
> I'm pretty sure most of these prims have been created using LibSL-derived
> tools.
>
> I don't know if this new-again ability is intentional or not, although I
> certainly hope it is because megaprims are incredibly useful. Either way, I
> wanted to be able to create large prims directly in the viewer. My biggest
> reason for wanting this ability is so that any builds I produce using these
> prims will then list me as the creator, instead of the creator of the prims
> that come from megaprim collections. Being able to create them myself also
> gives me the flexibility to have large prims in whatever size I need,
> regardless of whether someone thought to create one in advance or not.
>
> For the moment, I haven't posted this patch in JIRA, for a few reasons.
> 1. As above, I'm not sure if the ability to create these large prims is
> intentional or not
> 2. The patch, as it stands, isn't as good or as polished as I'd like for a
> JIRA submission
> 3. The creation and handling of large prims in the viewer is quirky
> 4. The use of megaprims always seems to be somewhat controversial
>
> With regards to "quirky", these large prims are subject to a couple of
> constraints:
> a. Prims with dimensions greater than 10m can only be *created*, they
> cannot be resized again later
> b. Attempts to resize any dimension of a large prim results in all
> dimensions of the prim being re-clamped to a 10m maximum
>
> With regards to controversy over the use of megaprims, I certainly
> understand that they can be used as a greifing tool (and I myself have been
> on the grief-receiving end of this). However, I feel that the incredible
> usefulness of such large prims greatly overweighs the detriments. Some
> people seem to disagree vehemently, though, so I thought a discussion here
> might be fruitful.
>
> That said, the patch itself is actually fairly straightforward. Part of
> the patch simply enables the Build tools to display and edit scale values
> larger than 10.0.
>
> Since large prims can only be oversized on creation, I've replaced the
> viewer's hard-coded new prim size of <0.5, 0.5, 0.5> with configurable
> settings. Then I've exposed these settings on the Create tool panel of the
> Build tools floater.
>
> Put together, these changes make it pretty simple to create prims of
> whatever dimensions you'd like.
>
> I've attached my patch (which is against 1.19.1.4, the most recent
> official release viewer), as well as a screenshot demonstrating the patch in
> action.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions, thoughts, or concerns.
>
> Cheers,
> --Able
>
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