[sldev] Sims and Script Security

[darien_caldwell at comcast.net]

I would like to think so myself. It would just be nice to have some official word on this from either side. 

I would love to attend in-world meetings, but being gainfully employed and on the West Coast means they are all mostly happening while I'm at work.  Such is life. :)

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lawson English <lenglish5 at cox.net>
> Darien Caldwell wrote:
> > Not long ago there was talk about how IBM has private sims behind a 
> > firewall. ( 
> > http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/04/ibm-takes-secon.html ) I was 
> > wanting to know, if they take a scripted item into this private space, 
> > does that give them any possible way to view the source code of 
> > scripts for said objects? or are only the compiled bytecodes sent to 
> > the sim?  Did LL make place any restrictions on what IBM can do with 
> > user content once it is taken into this area, or should creators start 
> > issuing EULAs if they don't want their items brought into this 
> > potentially unregulated space?
> 
> I suspect that they cannot, at this point, but even if they could, 
> they're under really strict business partner agreements with LL not to 
> use copybots on assets (or some other equivalent legal contract, I'm 
> sure). IBM should be just as trustworthy in this regard as LL, I should 
> hope.
> 
> This is entirely different than the upcoming case of Agent Domain vs 
> Region Domain distribution of assets and scripts, and the discussion 
> there has led to an assumption on everyone's part (including LL's) that 
> scripts will remain under complete control of the grid that they were 
> written in UNLESS they are full permissions OR the two grids have a 
> "trust agreement" worked out.
> 
> IF there is a trust agreement, walking between or teleporting between 2 
> such grids should eventually look as though you just moved to another 
> sim on the original grid. If there is no trust agreement, objects with 
> less than full permissions will not rez, and even if an object rezes, 
> the scripts within it, unless they are also full perms, will not be 
> available in either source or byte code format because the original 
> asset server won't give the no-perms stuff to the new asset server with 
> the possible exception of bling/attachments scripts, which might run in 
> their own private script server on the agent domain, and only control 
> signals (not byte code) of some kind sent to the non-trusted grid.
> 
> 
> There are ALSO proposals for "this grid only" permissions, open source 
> permissions, etc. If you want to get in on those conversations, you 
> should attend Zero Linden's office hours and/or the AW Groupies 
> meetings. Chat logs of previous meetings for both are linked at:
> 
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/AW_Groupies#Chat_Logs
> 
> Eben Moglen, former legal counsel for the FSF and  co-author of the 
> GPLv3, has indicated an interest in participating in discussions on 
> these issues, I understand. He or his students will be leading such 
> discussions in SL later this year, I believe.
> 
> 
> Lawson