[sldev] Question: Replacing current group chat with XMPP?

Harold Brown labrat.hb at gmail.com
Fri Sep 12 10:00:07 PDT 2008


lynX a developer of PSYC has just recently downloaded the OpenSIM svn and
had expressed interest (yesterday) of integrating PSYC with it (totally
unrelated to the conversation here) I mentioned the discussion here and they
posted the following on their wiki:

http://about.psyc.eu/Second_Life



On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Argent Stonecutter <
secret.argent at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2008-09-11, at 11:06, Robin Cornelius wrote:
>
>> Is there then a call to have a different type of group. One that does
>> not have chat associated with it.
>>
>
> That would be point 2 in http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2818 .
>
> An alternative would be to allow you to have an association with a group
> that doesn't include chat or any of the other high-impact features. There
> are a number of groups that I would like to "suspend membership" in without
> having to re-apply to rejoin.
>
> See http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1173 .
>
> On 2008-09-11, at 11:45, David M Chess wrote:
>
>> I take it that this is a problem we'd rather not reproduce, rather than
>> something that we want to make sure that an intragrid Group IM system also
>> does.  :)
>>
>
> It's just an indication that fairly high latency for starting a group
> conversation isn't automatically a fatal flaw. Certainly 10-20 seconds
> latency is entirely acceptable.
>
>  Given the number and volume of the voices I hear raised asking for the
>> limit to be increased, I think it's pretty common for people to be in 25
>> groups, for whatever reason.  Not necessarily 25 groups that really need a
>> group chat channel, though.
>>
>
> That would be the point there.
>
> I'd also like to note that person-person IM and group IM are generally
> different kinds of conversation, have different goals, anddon't need to
> share transport. For example, I could EASILY see logging in to IRC to get
> into a group chat without wanting to get into point-to-point chat with
> individuals, and vice versa.
>
> Also, it would be nice to be able to log in to office hours with a client
> that doesn't require a wide open firewall.
>
> Using open protocols for IM and group IM would allow me to run (for
> example) a shell IRC client or XMPP client on my colo server that I'm ssh-ed
> into. I can't see that happening with any likely Vivox-based client.
>
>
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