[sldev] Question: Replacing current group chat with XMPP?

[Dahlia Trimble]

That wouldn't be acceptable for inclusion into Opensim then as it's
incompatible with the BSD license that Opensim uses.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Harold Brown <labrat.hb at gmail.com> wrote:

> GPL version 2
> http://www.psyced.org/dist/LICENSE.txt
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> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> PSYC looks interesting but I can't seem to find any licensing terms on any
>> of their web sites. Also looks like they haven't had much opportunity to do
>> any really large scale testing of their protocol. Anyway if they are
>> interested in working with Opensim then this thread should probably be
>> continued on the opensim-dev mailing list. Details of the list can be found
>> at https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Harold Brown <labrat.hb at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> lynX a developer of PSYC has just recently downloaded the OpenSIM svn and
>>> had expressed interest (yesterday) of integrating PSYC with it (totally
>>> unrelated to the conversation here) I mentioned the discussion here and they
>>> posted the following on their wiki:
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>>> http://about.psyc.eu/Second_Life
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>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Argent Stonecutter <
>>> secret.argent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2008-09-11, at 11:06, Robin Cornelius wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there then a call to have a different type of group. One that does
>>>>> not have chat associated with it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would be point 2 in http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2818 .
>>>>
>>>> An alternative would be to allow you to have an association with a group
>>>> that doesn't include chat or any of the other high-impact features. There
>>>> are a number of groups that I would like to "suspend membership" in without
>>>> having to re-apply to rejoin.
>>>>
>>>> See http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1173 .
>>>>
>>>> On 2008-09-11, at 11:45, David M Chess wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I take it that this is a problem we'd rather not reproduce, rather than
>>>>> something that we want to make sure that an intragrid Group IM system also
>>>>> does.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's just an indication that fairly high latency for starting a group
>>>> conversation isn't automatically a fatal flaw. Certainly 10-20 seconds
>>>> latency is entirely acceptable.
>>>>
>>>>  Given the number and volume of the voices I hear raised asking for the
>>>>> limit to be increased, I think it's pretty common for people to be in 25
>>>>> groups, for whatever reason.  Not necessarily 25 groups that really need a
>>>>> group chat channel, though.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would be the point there.
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to note that person-person IM and group IM are generally
>>>> different kinds of conversation, have different goals, anddon't need to
>>>> share transport. For example, I could EASILY see logging in to IRC to get
>>>> into a group chat without wanting to get into point-to-point chat with
>>>> individuals, and vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> Also, it would be nice to be able to log in to office hours with a
>>>> client that doesn't require a wide open firewall.
>>>>
>>>> Using open protocols for IM and group IM would allow me to run (for
>>>> example) a shell IRC client or XMPP client on my colo server that I'm ssh-ed
>>>> into. I can't see that happening with any likely Vivox-based client.
>>>>
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