[sldev] 1.23.4 released in a hurry ? NO.

Harleen Gretzky gretzky.harleen at gmail.com
Wed Jun 17 07:18:37 PDT 2009


How do you override them?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Ann Otoole <missannotoole at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'm surprised protests are being tolerated in this mailing list.
>
> As for the rendering limits that were put in you can override them as an
> option. If your frame rate suffers because of your system configuration then
> it is your choice. Frankly I don't even consider frame rates in the SL
> viewer to even matter since you are not getting server frame rates above 45
> anyway. In order to record cinema quality video the SL frame rate would have
> to be above 60 FPS to accommodate the recording overhead to get to the ~30
> FPS needed.
>
> If people want to dispute the release then they need to apply pressure to
> the executive level of Linden Research Inc. Not the SLDEV mailing list. IMHO
> anyway.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kent Quirk (Q Linden) <q at lindenlab.com>
> *To:* Latif Khalifa <latifer at streamgrid.net>
> *Cc:* sldev <sldev at lists.secondlife.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:35:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [sldev] 1.23.4 released in a hurry ? NO.
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Latif Khalifa wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Brad Kittenbrink (Brad
> > Linden)<brad at lindenlab.com> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure I understand what your complaint is.  There's nothing
> >> blocking 1.22 viewers from logging in.  Our policy for deprecating
> >> older
> >> viewers is described here:
> >>
> https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2009/03/09/supported-viewer-versions
> >>
> >> Quite frankly if you're looking for "Some kind of clue" that a new
> >> viewer is going to be released, then IMHO you should treat our
> >> release
> >> of RC0 as that clue.  We've been bad in previous releases by calling
> >> things that weren't even close to releasable quality "RC" viewers,
> >> but
> >> the 1.23 RC process is what we've been aiming for ever since we
> >> started
> >> doing Release Candidates.  We're sorry if you've gotten used to us
> >> sucking, but this is one case where I'm glad to disappoint you. ;)
> >
> > It really takes a brave man to claim 1.23RC4 and now production 1.24.4
> > "releasable quality". Is that why comments were closed after a few
> > dozen or so on the blog post announcing the new viewer?
>
>
> I absolutely claim that 1.23 is not only of releasable quality, but
> the best viewer we've ever shipped. It met its design goals on RC1.
> The bugs that were found and fixed in the next 3 RCs were minimal. On
> a global statistics level, the crash rates are lower than they've ever
> been, even when you include crashes caused by specific video cards.
>
> There are some individuals who are upset about some of the design
> decisions, like the redesign of pie menus. That's not a quality issue.
> There are other individuals who are upset about some of the technical
> decisions, such as the imposition of rendering limits where we never
> had them before. That's not a quality issue either. And there are
> people who don't like the new Adult-Only stuff. That's also not a
> quality issue.
>
> The definition of quality is meeting the specification. We executed on
> this viewer better than we've ever done it before, and I'm pretty
> proud of our team for doing it.
>
> By the way, contrary to the implication in the subject line, we
> released 1.23.4 almost exactly according to the schedule I announced
> internally in February. The internal decision to ship was based on
> quality. As every professional software organization does, for every
> open issue we balance the risk of shipping a product with that issue
> against the risk of trying to fix it. When all the risks of shipping
> are lower than the risks of fixing, we ship it. Which is what we did
> with RC4.
>
>     Q
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