[sldev] Client detection and official viewer signatures.

[Stickman]

All my discussions with Emerald people have been friendly and helpful.
One of their developers put in a feature just for me, and went and
looked at and communicated with me about one of the bugs I reported.
(And ultimately fixed it, too)

But I haven't brought up the compatibility breaking stuff with them,
no. I figure they know what they're doing and have their reasons, and
I wouldn't be able to sway their decisions. The most I would expect to
get out of it is their reasons for doing it. Of course, I haven't
actually tried so it's all speculation.

-Stickman

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Brandon Husbands <xotmid at gmail.com> wrote:
> last time i talked with them..... They basically gave dcs and the combat
> sims a big middle finger...  I would not expect much from them.
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tigro Spottystripes
> <tigrospottystripes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Stickman, have you talked with the Emerald people about the content
>> breaking features you mentioned?
>>
>> Stickman escreveu:
>> > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Brandon Husbands <xotmid at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can we please get a method or something that we can detect using lsl,
>> >> libopenmv or something to detect a official viewer securely.
>> >> I know clients can spoof so it would have to be something that is like
>> >> pgp
>> >> key/response etc.  But there are viewers out there that exploit thinks
>> >> like
>> >> bounding boxes etc. that wreck havock with gaming systems. and rpg
>> >> stuff.
>> >> It should not be too hard.. I mean wouldent LLabs want to say hey this
>> >> is
>> >> the official viewer or hey this is a custom one. If not for thinks liek
>> >> i
>> >> speak of but for even compatibility / featuresets.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Detecting the client version for the purpose of anti-grief is futile.
>> > I believe there have been enough discussions on this list about that
>> > where we don't need to go into another one.
>> >
>> > However, for standard purposes, having a way to detect the client
>> > version would be nice -- especially now that Emerald is pushing more
>> > and more into territory that breaks compatibility.
>> >
>> > Currently, Emerald renders shine differently. They recently changed
>> > the way attachments work, as well. Being able to troubleshoot issues
>> > that people bring me about my products easily by simply saying, "Oh,
>> > you're using Emerald, which does A, B, and C which other clients won't
>> > be able to see" would be a lot easier than taking stabs in the dark.
>> >
>> > Besides, there are grues in the dark. Grues are scary.
>> >
>> > -Stickman
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