[opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

Jonathan Irvin djfoxyslpr at gmail.com
Thu Apr 1 09:09:16 PDT 2010

Linden Labs could care less about what you put in your viewer.  They are
concerned about their product, which is Second Life.  If YOUR viewer
connects to THEIR network, heck yeah you can be liable for it...maybe not in
the traditional sense, but you can agree you hold some responsibility for
your actions.  All that "legalese" is to prevent us, the developers, from
shrugging our shoulders and saying "Oops, my bad."  LL is covering their
backs.  Regardless of how you phrase it, code it, compile it...without the
Second Life service.  Your viewer is a brick.

I don't know anyone's tenure here in SL, and I won't ask.  But, I remember
"real" grid crashes.  I remember before there was the grey goo fence and
people taking down the grid with the OFFICIAL SecondLife viewer.

With Third-Party viewers coming into play and Linden Labs releasing more and
more bits of their service to the users, there has to be regulation and
restrictions in order to protect the business.  There is infinitely more
chance for something to go wrong when you throw third-party viewers in the

Jonathan Irvin

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 06:04, Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 04:06:52PM +0000, Gareth Nelson wrote:
> > LL as copyright holder (or joint holder) can change the GPL with extra
> > restrictions as much as they like - so long as they make it clear.
> That would be EXTREMELY against the spirit of open source and the use
> of GPL. It would also make it impossible for any TPV to use their code
> anymore: TPV's added patches that are pure-GPL. LL does not have copyright
> on those patches, so those remain GPL. Therefore it is not possible
> to link code resulting from those patches with code that is GPL+TPVP,
> which would be non-GPL because it has extra restrictions.
> Thus, if this is true (or if they'd do that in the future) then it is
> EXTERMELY important to understand; because it DOES mean that all TPV's
> have to stop using any additional code released by LL after 30 April 2010.
> --
> Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com>
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