[opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

Gareth Nelson gareth at garethnelson.com
Thu Apr 1 11:13:22 PDT 2010


Do you think griefers are going to care about the TPV, or any policy
for that matter?

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Irvin <djfoxyslpr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Linden Labs could care less about what you put in your viewer.  They are
> concerned about their product, which is Second Life.  If YOUR viewer
> connects to THEIR network, heck yeah you can be liable for it...maybe not in
> the traditional sense, but you can agree you hold some responsibility for
> your actions.  All that "legalese" is to prevent us, the developers, from
> shrugging our shoulders and saying "Oops, my bad."  LL is covering their
> backs.  Regardless of how you phrase it, code it, compile it...without the
> Second Life service.  Your viewer is a brick.
>
> I don't know anyone's tenure here in SL, and I won't ask.  But, I remember
> "real" grid crashes.  I remember before there was the grey goo fence and
> people taking down the grid with the OFFICIAL SecondLife viewer.
>
> With Third-Party viewers coming into play and Linden Labs releasing more and
> more bits of their service to the users, there has to be regulation and
> restrictions in order to protect the business.  There is infinitely more
> chance for something to go wrong when you throw third-party viewers in the
> mix.
>
> Jonathan Irvin
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 06:04, Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 04:06:52PM +0000, Gareth Nelson wrote:
>> > LL as copyright holder (or joint holder) can change the GPL with extra
>> > restrictions as much as they like - so long as they make it clear.
>>
>> That would be EXTREMELY against the spirit of open source and the use
>> of GPL. It would also make it impossible for any TPV to use their code
>> anymore: TPV's added patches that are pure-GPL. LL does not have copyright
>> on those patches, so those remain GPL. Therefore it is not possible
>> to link code resulting from those patches with code that is GPL+TPVP,
>> which would be non-GPL because it has extra restrictions.
>>
>> Thus, if this is true (or if they'd do that in the future) then it is
>> EXTERMELY important to understand; because it DOES mean that all TPV's
>> have to stop using any additional code released by LL after 30 April 2010.
>>
>> --
>> Carlo Wood <carlo at alinoe.com>
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