[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV

Boy Lane boy.lane at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 9 05:51:50 PDT 2010

Certainly, that relates to ToS which has a commencement date
in itself of 30 April.

Unfortunately the linked TPV I have to agree upon login does
not have a commencement date. Not that it matters if I accept it
for its content or not, which I don't. Logging in and clickwrapping
ToS automatically means acceptance of TPV the time I click OK.

And I'm not going to do this. Especially not to create facts that
are to be discussed with Joe later. If he is willing to do so.

If Linden wants to open the door again for Opensource developers
they should provide a medium to discuss this 3rd party viewer
policy without forcing these developers beforehand to accept
that exact policy in question.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholaz Beresford" <nicholaz at blueflash.cc>
To: <opensource-dev at lists.secondlife.com>; "Boy Lane" <boy.lane at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV

> Re ...
> > Unfortunately one can not attend without going inworld and
> > accepting ToS/TPV in the first place.
> and
> > Of course you can.  The ToS presented at login clearly states it
> > becomes effective on 4/30.  In the meantime, you continue to use the
> > service under the terms of the prior ToS which doesn't contain the
> > TPV provisions.
> I won't go to the meeting, but I have to agree with  Joe's interpretation 
> of the TOS.
> The §1 of the TOS ("By continuing to access or use Second Life after the 
> effective date of any such change, you agree to be bound by the modified 
> Terms of Service.") makes this rather clear.  And §11.2 is worded in a 
> similar way and IMO restates this intention.  Unlike other parts of the 
> TOS/TPV, I find those two reasonable clear and fair.
> I.e. the way I took it (although IANAL) is that by agreeing to the new TOS 
> at login I merely agree I'm bound by it when accessing SL after the 
> effective date.
> Nicholaz.

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