[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

Dzonatas Sol dzonatas at gmail.com
Sat Apr 10 10:51:41 PDT 2010

I'm not sure what you mean it didn't quite work.

Anyways, I appreciate that Joe wants to gather this Brown-Bag, so we can 
talk specifics in words.

Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
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> a baby can still crawl over the TV remote and turn it on right when a
> horror movie is playing, that baby analogy didn't quite work
> On 10/4/2010 14:14, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>> Hi Joe,
>> In case I don't make the Brown Bag, I just wanted to point out the fact 
>> that simply developers, which includes how Linden Lab has invested 
>> resources to sustain such world, don't share a view with users that 
>> Virtual Reality that Virtual Reality is not just a game. This 
>> realization is actually desired despite the politics of how we all move 
>> from what has been said virtual is not really virtual. I won't digress 
>> here about the subject, yet the monitor in front of us we can't touch 
>> and see and that is not 'fake' as some people treat virtual to only 
>> mean. I even imagine a house size 'monitor' where every wall can act as 
>> an interactive colorful display that consists of many organized liquid 
>> crystal units spread on like paint. That's the future... for now we have 
>> e-paper. It's something we can't really just say is not possible 
>> anymore, and it is something that may affect how we see content (or 
>> broken content) in relation to policies like the TPV.
>> I gather from the TPV that is it intended to help prevent broken 
>> content, yet it has been easily attacked. I think the notion of how to 
>> deal with broken content gets lost when developers worry more about how 
>> to protect their liabilities. Developers simply want to say 'use at your 
>> own risk' from a software development standpoint, yet that doesn't give 
>> anything to help ensure content doesn't break.
>> With that in mind, any word that implies 'responsibility' somehow hasn't 
>> carried the concern about how to prevent content breakage when anybody 
>> connects to SL Grid.I'm sure we don't want to paint our houses with a 
>> 'use at your own risk' and expect to say it is baby-safe. What would a 
>> baby see if an accidental bump in the wall activated something that 
>> parents would consider an undesirable experience for baby or child. I 
>> can only imagine the horror if the scene of the wall suddenly changed to 
>> spook the baby as if monsters came out of the wall. Maybe this isn't 
>> quite broken content, yet it is still an ideal situation to mention to 
>> level where 'responsibility' is distinct from 'liabilities'.
>> Just something to think about....
>> Joe Miller wrote:
>>> Morgaine,
>>> Thanks for asking.  My interest is to listen to specific concerns 
>>> voiced by the majority of the community *and* (more importantly) take 
>>> */proposed solutions/* to those concerns under advisement before the 
>>> policy becomes effective on April 30.  It won't be very productive for 
>>> anyone if it's just a grousing session about legal theory or 
>>> hypothetical situations that may or may not occur in the future.  Yes, 
>>> I will take all serious proposals back into the company for serious 
>>> consideration.  But, make no mistake, I'm not asking for a change set 
>>> that makes one person happier at a time.  I'm looking for the minimum 
>>> change set that represents the broadest possible consensus among the 
>>> community of TPV authors.
>>> So, yours are good questions, and I do intend to champion the TPV 
>>> community's collective voice in this process.  I hope we emerge with 
>>> something actionable out of these meetings.
>>> -- Joe
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