[opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

[Ron Festa]

Whether or not these tools are long term effective is irrelevant. The fact
these tools exist is simply the point Dale was trying to make. The whole
TPVP is a "Feel Good" Policy to delude residents into believing Linden Lab
can prevent the criminal element from having the tools to grief or violate
IP/CopyRight and keep them out. Despite the fact copybot and proxy hacks
like God Mode have been around longer then the OS viewer, many residents
blame the OS viewer for making such acts possible which all of us old timers
who paid attention and all of us OS developers/contributors know isn't the
case. As Real Life has proven over and over again, no Law or Policy will
prevent criminals from obtaining the tools they need to commit crime and
only hurt legitimate residents in the end.

Ron Festa
Virtual Worlds Admin
Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University
PGP key: http://bit.ly/b1ZyhY
Phone: 732-474-8583


On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Rob Nelson
<nexisentertainment at gmail.com>wrote:

> Certain griefer viewers already bypass this form of profiling.  I won't
> detail how.
>
> Fred Rookstown
>
> On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 16:03 -0700, Erik Anderson wrote:
> > Yah, but it might start looking a bit suspicious if it looks like
> > you're using computers as one-time pads, always using a different
> > system for each connection for a certain account?  Might not be as
> > easily detectable for the short-term accounts that get banned within
> > minutes, but anything with history would stick out fairly obviously.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Dale Glass <dale at daleglass.net>
> > wrote:
> >         В сообщении от Вторник 13 апреля 2010 00:52:48 вы написали:
> >         > There's still other facets.  For example, the approved
> >         viewers get some
> >         > publicity and reputation by being on the approved viewers
> >         page, and it
> >         >  makes people think that much harder about using sketchy
> >         viewers to do
> >         >  sketchy things.  (And yeah, they have to do one extra
> >         sketchy thing, as
> >         >  Thomas mentions.)
> >
> >         I don't think it makes a big difference.
> >
> >         I'm talking about a group with a "FOR THE LULZ!" motto. I
> >         don't think they
> >         care much about keeping any account of theirs for very long.
> >
> >         >
> >         > (As an aside, connecting from the same account and/or same
> >         IP with random
> >         > MACs seems pretty obviously strange and detectable.  There's
> >         a few more
> >         > hoops left to jump through there.)
> >
> >         That will take some work though. At my house there are 5
> >         computers that could
> >         run a SL client, that's 5 MACs, all behind the same NATed IP
> >         address. Schools,
> >         workplaces, cafes, etc could have hundreds of legitimate ones.
> >
> >
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
> >         http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
> >         Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated
> >         posting privileges
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
> > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
> > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting
> privileges
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting
> privileges
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/attachments/20100413/b922b685/attachment.htm