[opensource-dev] Thank you for updating the Viewer Directory requirements

Marine Kelley marinekelley at gmail.com
Wed Apr 28 12:34:29 PDT 2010

This is not a choice I made lightly, but many people simply did not
understand why the RLV was not in the directory, and despite the number of
times I said it was compliant, people just can't get their heads around the
fact that TPV policy compliance and Viewer Directory listing are two totally
different things. So I yielded.

Yes in some countries, requiring private RL data is illegal for a company
that is not a public administration. However these info are already known by
LL, they didn't require anything more than they already have. I gave mine
(again) because nothing said that these data were possibly going to be
published without my consent, at any time (LL has a privacy policy which is
not rewritten on the directory, so I assume the regular one applies). And if
my RL data became published one day without my consent, I'd have grounds to
sue LL for that and I'd win. Not that this is my intent in any way, but I'm
just saying that it would cause damage on both parts if such a thing
happened. So I am confident.

On 28 April 2010 20:40, Henri Beauchamp <sldev at free.fr> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:02:24 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote:
> > Hi, I'd like to thank whoever changed the application page on the Viewer
> > Directory, the RL info fields used to be "publishable" (they had a little
> > cross next to the little star indicating that they were mandatory), and
> > that's what was holding me from registering the RLV there. Today I just
> > noticed that these fields (RL name, address etc) are not "publishable"
> > anymore, which mostly addresses the concerns I had before, namely having
> my
> > RL info published without my agreement. Therefore I have applied to
> register
> > the RLV on the Viewer Directory today, we'll see how it goes.
> This is still *way* beyond what I am ready to provide to LL: it is
> *illegal*
> in France to require private data that is not strictly necessary to provide
> a service. Reference: Law Informatique et Liberté, Article 6, paragraph 3
> (http://www.cnil.fr/fileadmin/documents/en/Act78-17VA.pdf), citation:
> "The collected data [...] shall be adequate, relevant, and not excessive
> in relation to the purpose for which their are obtained and their further
> processing."
> Being published in the directory should not be made conditional to the
> divulgation of my real name and address. All what Linden Lab needs to
> have is my avatar name and an ISP based email (which they both already
> got): even in case of a legal issue, this info is sufficient for the
> police or the justice to identify me.
> Beside, given LL clearly states that they can modify the TPV policy at any
> time, how could you be sure that they won't suddenly decide to reveal your
> private data publicly ?... Another concern is about the security of your
> data. Linden Lab has already an history with data theft (see:
> http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2006/09/12/Second_Life_servers_hacked/1
> )
> and this may happen again, particularly with secondary and weakly protected
> databases such as the TPV directory.
> Sorry, but I will not endanger my real life by risking to get my real name
> publicly associated with my SL avatar name.
> As a French citizen, I will go by the French law which allows me to stay
> anonymous and preserve my private data.
> I already raised this concern, but apparently Linden Lab is ignoring it...
> For this reason and although fully TPV policy compliant, the Cool VL Viewer
> will not be registered in LL's TPV directory.
> Henri.
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