[opensource-dev] Thank you for updating the Viewer Directory requirements

Gareth Nelson gareth at garethnelson.com
Thu Apr 29 01:13:45 PDT 2010

Anyone who has ever had a stalker (and I unfortunately have, so I can
speak with some authority on the subject) will appreciate why it's
important not to disclose your real name and address in public.

Where it comes to trust, Henri has a point here - do you have the
address of every single developer who worked on every piece of
software you use on a daily basis? I certainly don't, I don't even
have their full names for some programs - just online aliases. The
reason I trust these people is because of online reputation and
because if I want to I can read the code myself and audit it.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Bryon Ruxton <bryon at slearth.com> wrote:
> Henri,
>> So, registering to the directory is clearly not a requirement to be
> considered
> as TPV-policy compliant, but on the other hand LL suggests that
> the viewers
> which are not in the directory are "dangerous" ones...
> This is both unfair and
> very close to pure diffamation.
> The viewer is required to comply, just make your viewer comply and don't
> register in the directory. If they are to prevent any viewer that does not
> comply with the TPV  to connect to the grid I am glad for it.
> And I agree with you in substance with your privacy claims, but you have to
> live in the real world and you have to abide by California law here. You own
> interpretation of French law is irrelevant. Yes LL has a wishy-washy policy
> designed not to accept any responsibility for anything. Guess what! So does
> Google and every hosting company on the planet, I have the same type of
> clauses as a business and doing otherwise would stupid and putting my
> company and myself at risk.
> If you are not willing to trust anyone with your basic information, you may
> want to start building your own personal datacenter Henri.
> You ARE trusting free.fr and Paypal with even more sensitive data btw...
> What should I or anyone trust using your viewer if there is so much to hide
> and unwillingness to provide a real name and a simple physical address.
> If I applied your own standards of trust, I am afraid I see no way for me to
> even consider using your viewer for my own protection. Just think about it.
> On 4/28/10 2:57 PM, "Henri Beauchamp" <sldev at free.fr> wrote:
>> Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, I won't take the risk and won't trust
> LL
>> (or any other company on Internet, even French ones) about being able
> to keep
>> my data safe from prying eyes...
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