[opensource-dev] FAQ posted for Third Party Viewer Policy

Gareth Nelson gareth at garethnelson.com
Sun Feb 28 17:25:07 PST 2010


This is untested by the way, seriously - probably won't run in its
current state, and i'd advise people not to get it running

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Gareth Nelson <gareth at garethnelson.com> wrote:
> The policy still refers to "distribution" in general, not just those
> viewers in the directory.
>
> So, everyone on this list is about to violate it, sorry. This might
> seem incredibly silly but shows how much you can break this policy
> without having the viewer do anything other than merely connect.
>
> # Remember, if you read this in a mailing list post, whomever owns the
> listserver has distributed it
> # You also just distributed it possibly by downloading the email
>
> from common.libsl import *
>
> client = SecondLife()
> print 'You probably shouldn\'t actually login, but if you do the
> author disclaims any and all liability'
> print 'Here\'s some content that is unsuitable for a PG audience: fuck
> shit cock cunt wanker'
> print 'Remember, before you login, you have not broken the TPV policy
> and the above profanity is just fine'
> print 'By the way, this runtime environment has not got a clue on your
> MAC address'
> print 'Here\'s some encouragement to infringe upon "intellectual
> property": go and infringe on intellectual property, go on, do it'
> print 'Simplest method - view a texture, take a screenshot, download,
> and reupload - that is "instruction"'
> print 'I absolutely do NOT represent that this in full compliance with
> the terms of the GPL, it is in fact under a simpler license as shown
> below'
> print 'I fully encourage women to walk around in public with uncovered
> hair, in violation of muslim law, and I also encourage eating pork and
> dancing on sundays - this is in v
> iolation of section 7ci of the TPV policy'
> print 'In the US, I believe distributing this is still a DMCA
> violation, so by having this code you\'re exposed to legal liability:
> 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 8
> 8 c0'
> print """
>
>                GENERAL MOCKERY LICENSE V0.1
> You are hereby permitted to use and distribute this software in order
> to mock people. Such permission includes redistribution
> and modification in source or binary form with exception of any
> modifications requested by linden lab under section 8d of their third
> party viewer policy. Should such modifications be requested, you are
> compelled to implement a feature that would violate Second Life Terms
> Of Service should it be used or lose your license to redistribute this
> software.
>
> The author disclaims any and all liability for any uses or
> distribution of this software in whatever fashion.
>
> Any modified versions of this software must carry a notice stating
> that it has been modified.
> """
> first = raw_input('First Name:').strip('\n')
> last  = raw_input('Last Name:').strip('\n')
> pwd   = raw_input('Password:').strip('\n')
>
> print 'Your IP address, the fact you ran this viewer and your login
> details are about to be sent to linden lab - and typing in your login
> details wasn\'t in itself giving cons
> ent, was it?'
>
> print 'Being serious - if you really do want to violate the policy,
> hit enter now, otherwise close this program'
>
> raw_input('Hit enter to break the policy...')
> client.Network.Login(first,last,pwd,'Violated Life','TPV policy
> infringing edition')
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Morgaine
> <morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Joe Linden <joe at lindenlab.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Mike, we created the Third Party Viewer Directory to promote a range
>>> of viewers that allow Residents to experience Second Life and everything in
>>> it in a wide variety of ways.
>>
>> Joe, thanks for clarifying that what you are doing with the Directory is
>> "promotion" of Third Party Viewers.  Since it's just promotion, TPV
>> developers are free to ignore it when they excel on features and don't need
>> promotion, and of course you will never make promotion mandatory.
>>
>> It's great that you clarified this, because people were mistakenly thinking
>> that instead of promotion, what you were trying to do is to regulate 3rd
>> party viewers and prevent them from gaining features that push the envelope
>> and make your own viewers look poor in comparison.
>>
>> It's always useful when such misapprehensions are laid to rest.
>>
>> Have a good day, and many thanks! :-)
>>
>>
>> Morgaine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Joe Linden <joe at lindenlab.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Mike, we created the Third Party Viewer Directory to promote a range
>>> of viewers that allow Residents to experience Second Life and everything in
>>> it in a wide variety of ways.  Since we'll be pointing to it often, it's a
>>> great way for the largest possible audience of Residents to learn about
>>> viewer alternatives that have been submitted by developers willing to
>>> certify that the viewer complies with the policy for all 3rd party viewers
>>> that connect to SL.
>>>
>>> And we haven't release Viewer 2.0 yet.  It's in open beta now to take
>>> constructive feedback from (new and longtime) Residents.  If it also
>>> stimulates great alternative viewers that comply with the policy, then we've
>>> accomplished several of our goals.
>>>
>>> -- joe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Mike Monkowski
>>> <monkowsk at fishkill.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So you've created this Third Party Viewer Directory in order to
>>>> *promote* third part viewers?  *That's* your "why"?  Well, you needn't
>>>> have bothered.  You did much more to promote third party viewers by
>>>> releasing Viewer 2.0.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Soft Linden wrote:
>>>> > I feel I should add too - this isn't all stick, as my below
>>>> > speculation about legal's intent might have suggested. Remember that
>>>> > we're creating the Viewer Directory to promote other viewer projects,
>>>> > so complying with the TPV terms offers up a pretty good carrot.
>>>> > However, I think legal also knows we'd be making trouble for ourselves
>>>> > if we gave even the whiff of an endorsement to a tool that hurt our
>>>> > resis or the Lab. So, legal needed to offer some objective rules
>>>> > before we could promote any projects.
>>>> >
>>>> > I hope this is helping. I worried that one of the most frustrating
>>>> > parts of the TPV might be that it was landing with a big "what"
>>>> > without enough "why" behind it. Most people react pretty badly to
>>>> > anything that looks like control for control's own sake.
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