[opensource-dev] Fixing the 2.0 chat bar focus problem?
Tigro Spottystripes
tigrospottystripes at gmail.com
Tue Mar 16 17:15:48 PDT 2010
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isn't that an option in 1.* ?
On 16/3/2010 20:54, Ricky wrote:
> I tend to use both wasdec and the arrow keys+pg up/dwn. Depends on what
> I'm doing. I remember fighting the chat bar all the time in SG1.3,
> where it kept stealing focus and getting filled with
> eeeewwwasssssddddssswwwwwwee... etc. while I was trying to pilot my
> vehicles I was scripting and while I was occasionally chatting (when my
> voice wan't working) with my group of testers.
>
> Having the chatbar always taking focus would be just as much a disaster
> for me as it seems it is for you to have it releasing focus so much...
> Although, for me it seems to be perfect the way it is, as I haven't
> been fighting it in 2.0: it seems to work the way my mind expects it to.
>
> If there seems to be an issue, then it sounds like a debug setting is in
> order. If enough people seem interested, that can be later exposed in
> the UI somewhere.
>
> Ricky
> Cron Stardust
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Glen Canaday <gcanaday at gmail.com
> <mailto:gcanaday at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's *my* bias. I personally know of no gamers who'd use wasd who
> have stayed in SL longer than a couple of months at best.
>
> Most of the people I have known in SL shop, go to clubs, create, RP, and
> hang out, most of which requires chatting without an extra step to
> switch focus. Leaving the chat bar with focus kills wasd movement, but I
> can name no one who doesn't use the arrow keys for that.
>
> Survey?
>
> On 03/16/2010 07:10 PM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
> that's new to me...
>
> perhaps my sample is biased due to me hanging around people with
>> similar
> interests (i do like to play computer/video games)
>
> On 16/3/2010 19:41, Glen Canaday wrote:
>
>> >> That's an annoyance I'd like to specifically target in snowglobe
>> 2. The
>> >> majority of resis in SL were never gamers so never got used to wasd
>> >> movement.
>> >>
>> >> --GC
>> >>
>> >> On 03/16/2010 03:42 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> OK, here's a design problem in the new viewer that maybe can be
>> >>> figured out here.
>> >>>
>> >>> From the Jira, I missed this response to one of my comments, some
>> >>> time ago. Apologies, I forgot to "watch" the item:
>> >>>
>> >>> From Q Linden:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Argent: the focus problem differs this time because the chat bar is
>> >>>> always present; we have no mechanism to make it go away, so if we
>> >>>> always gave it focus it would block normal keyboard use.
>> Personally,
>> >>>> I'm an AWSD movement person, so I actually find this works really
>> >>>> well for me. It's not quite as obviously wrong as you seem to
>> think.
>> >>>> However, I understand the use case and we'll talk about it
>> internally.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> This is exactly the same problem that we had the last two times.
>> This
>> >>> is exactly the same discussion we had the last two times. There are
>> >>> many many people who never use any of the keyboard accelerators
>> in SL,
>> >>> and always have the chat bar up and in focus. The chat bar focus
>> NEVER
>> >>> goes away. For us, normal keyboard use does not involve anything the
>> >>> chat bar blocks.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, how could this be fixed in the 2.0 viewer without causing
>> >>> discombobulation?
>> >>>
>> >>> An option "chat bar is the default focus"?
>> >>>
>> >>> What would that actually break?
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