[opensource-dev] Fixing the 2.0 chat bar focus problem?

[Ricky]

I tend to use both wasdec and the arrow keys+pg up/dwn.  Depends on what I'm
doing.  I remember fighting the chat bar all the time in SG1.3, where it
kept stealing focus and getting filled with eeeewwwasssssddddssswwwwwwee...
etc. while I was trying to pilot my vehicles I was scripting and while I was
occasionally chatting (when my voice wan't working) with my group of
testers.

Having the chatbar always taking focus would be just as much a disaster for
me as it seems it is for you to have it releasing focus so much...
 Although, for me it seems to be perfect the way it is, as I haven't been
fighting it in 2.0: it seems to work the way my mind expects it to.

If there seems to be an issue, then it sounds like a debug setting is in
order.  If enough people seem interested, that can be later exposed in the
UI somewhere.

Ricky
Cron Stardust

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Glen Canaday <gcanaday at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe it's *my* bias. I personally know of no gamers who'd use wasd who
> have stayed in SL longer than a couple of months at best.
>
> Most of the people I have known in SL shop, go to clubs, create, RP, and
> hang out, most of which requires chatting without an extra step to
> switch focus. Leaving the chat bar with focus kills wasd movement, but I
> can name no one who doesn't use the arrow keys for that.
>
> Survey?
>
> On 03/16/2010 07:10 PM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
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> > that's new to me...
> >
> > perhaps my sample is biased due to me hanging around people with similar
> > interests (i do like to play computer/video games)
> >
> > On 16/3/2010 19:41, Glen Canaday wrote:
> >
> >> That's an annoyance I'd like to specifically target in snowglobe 2. The
> >> majority of resis in SL were never gamers so never got used to wasd
> >> movement.
> >>
> >> --GC
> >>
> >> On 03/16/2010 03:42 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, here's a design problem in the new viewer that maybe can be
> >>> figured out here.
> >>>
> >>>    From the Jira, I missed this response to one of my comments, some
> >>> time ago. Apologies, I forgot to "watch" the item:
> >>>
> >>>    From Q Linden:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Argent: the focus problem differs this time because the chat bar is
> >>>> always present; we have no mechanism to make it go away, so if we
> >>>> always gave it focus it would block normal keyboard use. Personally,
> >>>> I'm an AWSD movement person, so I actually find this works really
> >>>> well for me. It's not quite as obviously wrong as you seem to think.
> >>>> However, I understand the use case and we'll talk about it internally.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> This is exactly the same problem that we had the last two times. This
> >>> is exactly the same discussion we had the last two times. There are
> >>> many many people who never use any of the keyboard accelerators in SL,
> >>> and always have the chat bar up and in focus. The chat bar focus NEVER
> >>> goes away. For us, normal keyboard use does not involve anything the
> >>> chat bar blocks.
> >>>
> >>> So, how could this be fixed in the 2.0 viewer without causing
> >>> discombobulation?
> >>>
> >>> An option "chat bar is the default focus"?
> >>>
> >>> What would that actually break?
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