[sldev] Re: Dazzle / Windlight merge?

Ramzi ramzi at lindenlab.com
Tue Apr 8 22:46:37 PDT 2008


Thanks Harold, it's an important point-- the Dazzle project was the 
first comprehensive change, and also a "proof of needed abstraction" to 
the UI code.  Dazzle is what identified, for example, that the color for 
Pie Menus shouldn't need to be hardcoded to the same color as the 
MenuItemDisabledColor.  Or that we'd like to separate the icon from its 
background art(or how about a gradient?) in sortable column headers.

I've seen the internal team take the feedback from the First Look very 
seriously, every week, from the issue tracker & office hours.  Yes, the 
further UI abstraction work and persistent skin installs aren't complete 
yet; but we've made a heartfelt attempt to update the wiki with real 
plans for [[Skinning]] this quarter & beyond, aggregate issues in 
VWR-6027, document some current capabilities in a [[Skinning 
HowTo/Basics]]*, and (hopefully) see more resident links to their 
darker/classic skin creations in the meantime.

W/r/t optional viewers -- I can say that Linden Lab heard great Resident 
feedback recently about the advantages to having 2 supported viewer 
versions available whenever possible.  Listening to that feedback is 
what led to making 1.19.0.5 the minimum version /only after/ 1.19.1 was 
released about a week ago.

-Ramzi
[[User:Ramzi Linden]]


*this page can't be seen just yet, because wiki.secondlife.com is having 
auth problems as I type this. sigh.



Harold Brown wrote:
> [and again for the entire list]
>
> There's a bit more to Dazzle then just changing the graphics.  There
> were several internal changes that had to be made to allow some hard
> coded colors to be changed as well as to allow for images to be loaded
> differently.
>
> No I don't like the bright blue Dazzle graphics, and I did recolor
> everything to be darker to fit my taste.  Once the 1.20 RC's are
> available, even if there is not native skin support, I will write an
> external program to allow for different UI sets at the very least.
>
> The external program would only be a stop-gap solution until true
> "theme / skin" support could be added to the client.
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Tateru Nino <tateru.nino at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Thomas Grimshaw wrote:
>>     
>>> Adric R wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I really hope this 1.20 release isn't mandatory. It looks (at least from
>>>>         
>> this outside observer) like as with the chatterbox, LL is going to wait for
>> resident outrage again before addressing problems members of the community
>> saw and were vocal about in advance: in this case, the lack of any means for
>> skin switching.
>>     
>>> Out of curiosity,
>>>
>>> Does anyone in this list like Dazzle ?
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Perhaps not in this list - but I have met two residents who are looking
>> forward to it as is.
>>
>>
>>
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