[sldev] Re: Dazzle / Windlight merge?

[Ramzi]

Great suggestion. The page I mentioned before is now up on the wiki:  
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Skinning_HowTo/Basics
This starts with the current (albeit limited) capabilities for changing 
color, art & sizing as of version 1.20.  I'm hoping others will add to 
it, add other tutorials, and post the results of their mods.

I can commit to documenting the capabilities like this, as they improve 
with each phase of the Skinning project.

Ramzi


Tateru Nino wrote:
> [...]
> A changelog about what's going on under the hood that to enable and 
> extend those appearance changes - now that might help show off that 
> the focus isn't really on a single set of  surface alterations. Just a 
> suggestion.
>

> Ramzi wrote:
>> Thanks Harold, it's an important point-- the Dazzle project was the 
>> first comprehensive change, and also a "proof of needed abstraction" 
>> to the UI code.  Dazzle is what identified, for example, that the 
>> color for Pie Menus shouldn't need to be hardcoded to the same color 
>> as the MenuItemDisabledColor.  Or that we'd like to separate the icon 
>> from its background art(or how about a gradient?) in sortable column 
>> headers.
>>
>> I've seen the internal team take the feedback from the First Look 
>> very seriously, every week, from the issue tracker & office hours.  
>> Yes, the further UI abstraction work and persistent skin installs 
>> aren't complete yet; but we've made a heartfelt attempt to update the 
>> wiki with real plans for [[Skinning]] this quarter & beyond, 
>> aggregate issues in VWR-6027, document some current capabilities in a 
>> [[Skinning HowTo/Basics]]*, and (hopefully) see more resident links 
>> to their darker/classic skin creations in the meantime.
>>
>> W/r/t optional viewers -- I can say that Linden Lab heard great 
>> Resident feedback recently about the advantages to having 2 supported 
>> viewer versions available whenever possible.  Listening to that 
>> feedback is what led to making 1.19.0.5 the minimum version /only 
>> after/ 1.19.1 was released about a week ago.
>>
>> -Ramzi
>> [[User:Ramzi Linden]]
>>
>>
>> *this page can't be seen just yet, because wiki.secondlife.com is 
>> having auth problems as I type this. sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harold Brown wrote:
>>> [and again for the entire list]
>>>
>>> There's a bit more to Dazzle then just changing the graphics.  There
>>> were several internal changes that had to be made to allow some hard
>>> coded colors to be changed as well as to allow for images to be loaded
>>> differently.
>>>
>>> No I don't like the bright blue Dazzle graphics, and I did recolor
>>> everything to be darker to fit my taste.  Once the 1.20 RC's are
>>> available, even if there is not native skin support, I will write an
>>> external program to allow for different UI sets at the very least.
>>>
>>> The external program would only be a stop-gap solution until true
>>> "theme / skin" support could be added to the client.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Tateru Nino <tateru.nino at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Thomas Grimshaw wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Adric R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>> I really hope this 1.20 release isn't mandatory. It looks (at 
>>>>>> least from
>>>>>>         
>>>> this outside observer) like as with the chatterbox, LL is going to 
>>>> wait for
>>>> resident outrage again before addressing problems members of the 
>>>> community
>>>> saw and were vocal about in advance: in this case, the lack of any 
>>>> means for
>>>> skin switching.
>>>>   
>>>>> Out of curiosity,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone in this list like Dazzle ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>> Perhaps not in this list - but I have met two residents who are 
>>>> looking
>>>> forward to it as is.
>>>>
>>>>
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