[sldev] Question: Replacing current group chat with XMPP?

[David M Chess]

> From: "Dahlia Trimble" <dahliatrimble at gmail.com>

>I'm not sure of the relevance to this discussion, but I've often been
>intrigued by some of the user numbers I see on IRC networks. Here's a 
quick
>sample taken a moment ago from freenode:
>
>Total channels:5197
>Top 3 channels by *currently logged in* users:
>#ubuntu      1362
>#gentoo       933
>#debian       819
>
>What does this mean, other than freenode is dominated by geeks? It could
>mean that they have solved some of the scalability problems with the IRC
>model and it can serve as a reference.

If I'm understanding what Zero said correctly, the problem with IRC 
scaling to SL levels wasn't the number of people concurrently logged into 
a group so much as it was the number of groups that each person was 
concurrently logged into.  And I think that's a rather fundamental 
difference between the use-cases: I believe the average IRC user is only 
in a few channels at a time (heavy IRC users are invited to comment on 
that!), whereas in the SL model one is currently in like 25 at a time, and 
even when we fix things so that groups that don't need chat channels don't 
have them, we'll also be raising the 25-group limit, so I expect that 
25-at-once will continue to be pretty typical.

(And suggesting that SL residents just change their habits so that they 
*aren't* listening for anything that anyone might say in an of 25 group 
channels is a non-starter for me.  Seems like a perfectly plausible way to 
use the system, it's the way that *I* want to use the system, and I don't 
want to say that the users have to change because we aren't smart enough 
to find a way to meet their expectations.)

>I'd love to see an IRC client built into the viewer. Currently I can use 
a
>web based irc client inside the viewer's browser window, but it takes far
>more screen real estate than it needs. Then again, the communicate window
>also takes far more screen real estate than it needs :(

I hope that's slightly tongue-in-cheek.  :)  Or else people are going to 
start advocating for email / AIM / WoW clients built into the viewer, too, 
for the same reasons.  :)

Dale Innis
DaleInnisEmail at gmail.com

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