[sldev] UI streamlining strategy

Gordon Wendt GordonWendt at gmail.com
Tue May 5 22:36:24 PDT 2009


No more than World of Warcraft keeps logs of what goes on in their servers,
that's not the best example I know. Users always have the options of
deactivating their accounts and leaving otherwise when using ANY online
service you agree that any interaction with their servers are logged.  The
reason this would need permission is that it's information that people
wouldn't generally expect to get sent to the servers so it really would be a
bit of a privacy violation to not give it as opt-in.  Incidentally you do
have other options, you can use SL text chat solely as a means to share your
AIM name which is a communications means outside of SL, and for voice
nothing is stopping you from setting up a Ventrilo or Teamspeak server
which, going back to WoW, is exactly what the majority of people choose to
do over WoW's built in voice feature/

-Gordon

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Tigro Spottystripes <
tigrospottystripes at gmail.com> wrote:

> I already don't like that they keep chatlogs on the servers without us
> having a choice (besides not using SL at all or using external means to
> chat), I'm not 100% sure I could trust them to not include more than one
> would expect once this permission is given, though perhaps if a big
> enough amount of the respected open source community revised all the
> code involved in gathering the data on the client side and approved it
> perhaps I might consider providing consent for them to track my mouse,
> clicks, button presses and a few other things
>
> Ricky escreveu:
> > Of course, this would be an opt-in clause?  AKA a "Would you like to
> > send your anonymous usage data to LL to help with improving our UI?"
> > popup during the first run of the program. (DO NOT use the text I just
> > wrote!! :P )
> >
> > A lot of programs I use ask that question. Admittedly, I tend to hit
> > "no" by default, but it would help prevent people from complaining
> > about LL spying on them...  (Ridiculous, I know!)
> >
> > Ricky
> > aka Cron Stardust
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Moriz Gupte <moriz.gupte at gmail.com
> > <mailto:moriz.gupte at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hey there, I am starting a new thread as a response to your
> >     suggestion. This idea resonates with a lot of us but for some
> >     reason did not follow through whenever it was raised (the one time
> >     I remember was a post on SLViews last year).
> >     I think shortcuts to rapid decisions e.g. votes work but it comes
> >     with some campaigning distractions..
> >     There are well developed click path analyses, click through
> >     evaluations out there...and we could get inspired from them. I
> >     think gaze based evals (fixation/dwell analyses) have their place
> >     too and is to expected in a bleeding edge metaverse platform company.
> >
> >
> >             Extracting Usability Information from User Interface
> >             Events <
> http://www.fxpal.com/publications/FXPAL-PR-00-162.pdf>
> >
> >
> >             Eventseer.net - Understanding the user - logging and
> >             interpreting user interactions in information search and
> >             retrieval <http://eventseer.net/e/10343/>
> >
> >
> >             DATA LOGGING: HIGHER-LEVEL CAPTURING AND MULTI-LEVEL
> >             ABSTRACTING OF USER ACTIVITIES
> >             <http://linc.cs.vt.edu/papers/2000/HeNeIsCa-Logging-HFES/>
> >
> >
> >     I think with Melinda's approach which she mentioned could be done
> >     fairly quickly would be a fantastic start. We could look into
> >     patterns of clicks, eliminate UI interactions, coalesce functions
> >     and so on.
> >     I imagine this approach should already be taking at LL so this
> >     info may be redundant.
> >
> >     Ramesh
> >
> >     I think Melinda Green has a great idea to collect usage data on
> >     the user interface, it would give a lot of information on how it
> >     is being used. I would expand it a bit and save all interactions
> >     (with the UI) sequential. That way we can also learn which actions
> >     are taken after each other, if it turn out button A and Z are
> >     always pressed after one another we could create button AZ and
> >     simplify. We might want to start a new chain to discuss this.
> >
> >
> >         Jeroen Frans
> >         Executive Director
> >         TheVesuviusGroup.com
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