[sldev] SL 2.0?

[Frisby, Adam]

It's worth pointing out that outside tools are a lot better.

If you add inworld texturing facilities - you are unlikely to get much better than MSPaint. Proper texturing requires proper tools (ie, Adobe Photoshop) - likewise mesh editing requires decent tools to be effective. Inworld mesh editing is really a unnessecary feature; sure you can do it - but it's cart before the horse if you don't add mesh support at all first.

Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sldev-bounces at lists.secondlife.com [mailto:sldev-
> bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Melinda Green
> Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2010 10:43 PM
> To: lenglish5 at cox.net
> Cc: sldev at lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: Re: [sldev] SL 2.0?
> 
> Lawson English wrote:
> > Melinda Green wrote:
> >> Meshes will give an amazing improvement to the flexibility of
> >> building but they will not be a replacement for most current uses of
> >> sculpties. Sure, some cases where people have managed to painfully
> >> create polygonal forms will be more efficiently remodeled using
> >> meshes, but all of the lovely organically shaped models that have
> >> been modeled using sculpties will be best left just as they are.
> >>
> >> This is not a boon for the user resource haves versus have-nots, or
> >> if it is, it's the other way around from what you describe in that
> it
> >> will be a boon for people with low-end systems who will be able to
> >> experience the same levels of realism they currently enjoy but with
> >> faster frame rates that will be possible when inefficient built prim
> >> and sculpty content is replaced with more efficient mesh versions.
> >>
> >> I don't think that it will be even possible for open-source
> >> developers to bring mesh modeling into SL. Aside from overall
> >> transforms and textures, I doubt that it will be possible to edit
> the
> >> topology of existing meshes any more than it is possible to edit
> >> existing textures. I therefore agree with you that it makes the most
> >> sense to do all mesh editing using external tools. What you lose in
> >> the community experience of collaborative building that Lawson
> >> mentions, you gain in the ability to make really efficient models
> and
> >> to easily make portable back-ups of your work. The back-up feature
> is
> >> the one that has long kept me from investing much effort into
> content
> >> generation but now it gets a lot more attractive to me and probably
> >> to professional 3D modelers as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > We already have the basics of texture editing inworld in the form of
> > html on a prim, and Aimee's VNC plugin.
> 
> That's not texture editing, that's dynamic texturing. Cool but not the
> same. My point is that uploaded meshes will likely be as immutable as
> uploaded textures.
> 
> > Expecting the SL sever to track every vertex-change might not be
> > practical, but a collaborative P2P connection between 2 or more
> > clients ala croquet with the finish product updated to the sim server
> > for everyone else to see, wouldn't be that difficult to work up. And,
> > if someone cares to publish a specific dedicated server for mesh
> > collaboration updates, the avatars of a sim and child-sims could
> still
> > watch the mesh  update in realtime, simply by bypassing Linden's sim
> > servers
> 
> Sounds difficult to me, but go for it if you think that the benefits
> outweigh the costs.
> -Melinda
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