[opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

Glen Canaday gcanaday at gmail.com
Sun Apr 4 10:55:35 PDT 2010

Mmm. There are many grids, all running different server versions. All of 
the web-related stuff like the concurrency, etc., is all client-side and 
has nothing at all to do with OpenSim. It's web data and your client 
wasn't configured to look at any other web page with that data.

In short, it looks like what you saw was something akin to a very, very 
bad wireless connection. I used to have the same things in SL (ping 
times near 20 sec) before I replaced my wireless card. Physics engines 
don't work when you can't participate in the server frames! The 
particular grid you were on could have been served from crap hardware 
and connection. The upshot is that they could serve it at all, and that 
you could connect... but people (like me) often tend to bite off more 
than they can chew at times. You need a good machine and good 
connectivity in order to serve regions - which LL has invested *oodles* 


On 04/04/2010 02:49 AM, Dale Mahalko wrote:
> I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for the first time
> this weekend. Overall the experience was plain awful, on a 10 megabit
> internet connection and GTX 285 1024meg
> Oddly, when giving the SL client the OSgrid URL from the command line,
> the client login page tells me that the Second Life grid is up, and
> the number of concurrent users in SL, etc. Why is the client not
> telling me the status of the OSgrid instead?
> On first login, the sim textures took forever to load. Like, after 5
> minutes I'm still standing in a sea of gray boxes.
> Simple physics only with the ground. All objects are phantom. I'd
> think the OSGrid default login would want to showcase the
> collision-resolving capabilities of the more advanced open physics
> engines, but oh well.
> When I search for sandboxes to try building stuff... odd, the search
> window shows me stuff from Second Life, not the OSGrid. Most teleports
> fail because it appears I'm getting links to SL sims that don't accept
> connections from OSGrid. Yep, I can find the Cordova Sandbox from the
> search page within OSGrid. (I don't think search should list sims that
> don't accept connections.)
> Searching for "osgrid" in the search window oddly turns up nothing.
> How am I to find sandbox sims in OSGrid? "Oh, just open the map and
> pick that way" someone tells me. Yeah that works well. the map shows
> about a 10x10 grid of sims nearby, but the rest of the map doesn't
> want to load. Timeout.
> I did actually manage to find another OSgrid sim to connect to, but on
> join it turned out to have a ping of 6000. (It would be useful for the
> search page to show a graph of the sim load for the last five minutes
> so we know if a sim is lagged out BEFORE we try teleporting.)
> And oh joy, I can't now "teleport home" to where I started. The OSgrid
> did something I've not seen happen on SL in a long time, where I seem
> to still be connected but all the traffic meters in the client debug
> (Ctrl-Shift-1) drop to 0 kbps.
> The inventory never loaded completely, even though as a new user it's empty.
> Relogin attempts attempting to login at the home location were just as
> slow and unresponsive.
> Yep, if you don't like the new SL client developer TOS, there is sure
> a great future to look forward to with the open source grid project.
> :-P
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