[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV

Aleric Inglewood aleric.inglewood at gmail.com
Sat Apr 10 06:09:28 PDT 2010


This doesn't cut it, as the whole problem is that open source developers
should NOT have to take any legal liablity. The risk are entirely for
the user.

The goal that we seek is that the TPV policy makes clear that:

1) A developer can have his viewer blocked (and even his account deleted)
   if he refuses to comply with change requests by LL.

2) The user takes all risks, as in: a user can NEVER hold the developer
   responsible for any damages (the usual GPL blah blah). NO WARRANTY,
   NOT LIABILITY. Nobody should even THINK of trying to sue a developer
   because using his code did or didn't do this or that.

3) The user can be held responsible for his actions (he can never claim
   that he didn't know it wasn't allowed).

AND (!)

1a) A developer will never be sued by Linden Lab because he made changes
    to GPL-ed code and/or distributed GPL-ed code.

3a) The developer of a TPV that is being used by a user has nothing to do
    with whatever that user does. It is a business between Linden Lab
    and the user (some other section will say that also Linden Lab takes
    no responsibility). LL CAN take (legal) action against the user, but
    the developer is out of the picture.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Lance Corrimal <Lance.Corrimal at eregion.de>wrote:

> My suggestion for changes to this (my changes are in CAPS):
>
> 7.a You are responsible for all uses you make of Third-Party Viewers.
> If you are a Developer, you are responsible for all CHANGED OR ADDED
> features, functionality, code, and content of Third-Party Viewers THAT
> YOU DEVELOP AND DISTRIBUTE.
>

 Sorry, but being responsible for changed or added code is not acceptable;
at least, not if that means "legal action".

7.d IF YOU ARE A developer, You assume all risks, expenses, and
> defects IN ANY MODIFICATIONS OF Third-Party Viewers that you develop,
> or distribute.
>

This TOTALLY unacceptable. Open source developers CANNOT assume all
risks *expenses* and defects; we introduce bugs too. If the user doesn't
like those bugs their option is to not use the viewer. That's it.
If Linden Lab doesn't like the bugs (or features) they can block the
viewer from their network; no start some legal action against an
individual.

IF YOU ARE A USER, YOU AGREE TO THE FACT THAT YOU USE THIS SOFTWARE
> SOLELY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
> Linden Lab shall not be responsible or liable for any Third-Party
> Viewers.
>

Official CC to Joe since voice doesn't work for me.
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