[opensource-dev] Requesting Linden Response: Please move TPVP Topics to a different mailing list

[Rob Nelson]

And yet, it does restrict GPL distribution rights.  We've been over this
already.  And I'd like to see where the FSF OKed it, the only thing I
can turn up on Google is Richard Stallman not being too happy about it.

I already changed the viewer I used to be working on to Luna, but both
the GPL incompatabilities and this rather infuriating "cost/benefit"
comment by Joe have resulted in me deciding that LL does not deserve any
further OSS development work from me.


On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 14:11 -0400, Ron Festa wrote:
> Honestly I tried looking through my inbox to find out what your
> concerns were and why no one else addressed them so forgive me if I
> couldn't find them. The only problems I saw you had was compatibility
> with the GPLv2 and the use of "Life" in your viewer name. 
> 
> 
> The issues with Section 7 were in fact addressed and took up most of
> the meeting. Someone claimed they went as far as bringing the TPVP
> before the FSF to verify if its GPLv2 compliant and sadly according to
> them it is as its restricting a service not the code. Never the less
> concerns were brought up and productive changes were suggested.
> 
> 
> As for the branding this should be no argument. If in a court of law
> they can make Lindows change their name to Linspire because Microsoft
> owns *indows then LL can do the same with all the TPV's as stupid as
> that is.
> 
> 
> If these aren't your only concerns please share them so some of us can
> deliver them by proxy for you since the time zone difference seems to
> be the biggest problem for you.
> 
> 
> Ron Festa
> Virtual Worlds Admin
> Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University
> PGP key: http://bit.ly/b1ZyhY
> Phone: 732-474-8583
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Nelson
> <nexisentertainment at gmail.com> wrote:
>         I decided to read the transcript and it did not address any of
>         my
>         concerns.
>         
>         [12:21][Voice Transcript] Joe Linden: we've ha a lot of
>         internal debate
>         around cost/benefit of OS
>         
>         ^ That was all I needed to hear.  Debate's effectively over.
>         
>         On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:27 -0700, Joe Linden wrote:
>         
>         
>         > Rob,
>         >
>         > I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
>         >
>         > -- Joe
>         >
>         > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
>         > <nexisentertainment at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         It's already reached a point where LL has told us,
>         to our
>         >         faces, that
>         >         they are not going to change the policy, meaning our
>         opinion
>         >         doesn't
>         >         mean diddly to them.  There's no use continuing to
>         discussion,
>         >         just as
>         >         there's no use continuing TPV development.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 07:52 -0500, Jonathan Irvin
>         wrote:
>         >         > To Whom It May Concern:
>         >         >
>         >         > I'm requesting Linden Lab's response to this
>         inquiry due to
>         >         the recent
>         >         > influx of new topic related...or should I say
>         unrelated to
>         >         the
>         >         > development of the SnowGlobe viewer.  Lately, when
>         I open my
>         >         email, I
>         >         > get 5-10 different topics and responses daily to
>         the recent
>         >         changes
>         >         > for the Third Party Viewer policy and I feel that
>         this is
>         >         not related
>         >         > to SnowGlobe or related development at all.
>         >         >
>         >         > To "clear the pipes", can we please move these
>         discussions
>         >         to a
>         >         > different forum or list so valid OpenSource
>         development
>         >         questions are
>         >         > not lost in the flames, complaints, and
>         discussions related
>         >         to this
>         >         > specific topic?
>         >         >
>         >         > I do not feel it is valid in this forum to talk
>         about which
>         >         > Third-Party Viewers in the directory were already
>         >         impersonated or
>         >         > which part of the third party viewer policy they
>         do not
>         >         like.
>         >         >
>         >         > Linden Labs, if you can please isolate this to
>         another
>         >         forum, I bet
>         >         > those who are truly interested in the opensource
>         development
>         >         of the
>         >         > Second Life viewer would be more in tuned to
>         staying here
>         >         rather than
>         >         > wake up to read yet another unproductive "I hate
>         LL and the
>         >         TPVP lets
>         >         > get together and share our misery post".
>         >         >
>         >         > Respectfully & Best Regards,
>         >         >
>         >         > Jonathan Irvin
>         >         > SL Resident of 5 Years.
>         >
>         >
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