[sldev] branches/shadow-draft missing llrender.cpp

[Brad Kittenbrink (Brad Linden)]

Tateru Nino wrote:
>
>
> Thomas Grimshaw wrote:
>> Tateru Nino wrote:
>>> Considering how poorly SL can perform at quite a bit better than the 
>>> minimum spec, I think that 2% figure could well be achieved by 
>>> people departing in frustration. My last system was a solid gaming 
>>> machine in its day - but could barely chug along in single-digit 
>>> frame-rates on minimum settings once Windlight came along. Thank 
>>> heavens for new hardware. 
>> There's no way second life could retain its stronghold in the virtual 
>> world marketplace unless it made some progress graphically. And, no 
>> disrespect, but have you turned your graphics settings down to match 
>> the quality of the old client? Windlight can be effectively 
>> disabled.  You can't expect better graphics with no performance hit.
> Yes, I did. It did not run as well - 30% drop in framerates on that 
> system - that was my point. It pretty much killed my ability to use SL 
> on that box.
>
> And I'm certainly not arguing against graphical improvements. From a 
> business standpoint they are a necessity over time.
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If a particular release degrades performance on your configuration, that 
is a bug, and should be reported with CPU/GPU/ram configuration info.  
Such bugs will be prioritized according to the severity  of the 
degradation and what proportion of the resident community they affect 
just like all other bugs.

It was a goal of the WindLight project to have no graphics chipset with 
a significant sample size in our databse average below 12fps on the 
recommended settings.  We collected a lot of data on this during the 
firstlooks and release candidates for 1.19.1, I'll see if we can dig 
some of it up and publish it.

We clearly want our target audience to be as large as possible.  To do 
otherwise would be business suicide for us.  Second Life should run 
reasonably on as many machines as possible.  I'm particularly interested 
in under what configuration Tateru had problems.  Is there an existing 
jira for this?  Scott Squires' situation earlier in the thread is 
similarly interesting.




I'd also like to respond to the following point made earlier in the thread:

Matthew Dowd wrote:
> I do have issue with the "if you machine is older than a few years, 
> stop being a skinflint and buy a new one" implication of the e-mail 
> though!
Eric has responded to many of the rest of the issues in that post, but 
I'd like to add the following:  There is no implication that you need to 
buy a new machine.  GeForce 8[1] and Radeon R600[2] series cards are 
availible for less than $50.  (I believe that the R600 series is the 
equivalent ATI product line as it claims shader model 4 support, but one 
of the other graphics devs should probably confirm that.)  If you're 
running on a laptop or otherwise can't upgrade the graphics card, you 
should never expect to have the latest and greatest graphical features.

-Brad

[1] 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+4025+106791921
[2] 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+4025+106792278